Climate bill stalls in Senate after disputeAP

[Desertdog]

The Republicans should demand that they read each and every bill that comes up.

Climate bill stalls in Senate after dispute
H. JOSEF HEBERT

Associated Press Writer
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7563462

WASHINGTON (AP) - A Senate debate over a bill to combat global warming came to a halt Wednesday after Republicans demanded a reading of the 492-page document because of a partisan dispute over judicial nominations.

The partisan squabble spilled over to a disagreement over how many amendments should be allowed, threatening to cut short likely consideration of the legislation once it gets back on track.

Senate clerks read into the evening hours as both sides mapped out their next move, once the reading was to be concluded, sometime before midnight.

The bill, the most ambitious legislation on global warming ever taken up in Congress, would cut carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 71 percent by mid-century from power plants, refineries, factories and transportation.

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change. But Republican critics said it would result in higher energy costs and economic turmoil.

After an agreement to bring the legislation up for action, Republicans turned down requests that a reading of the bill not be required, a procedure that is routine.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said he directed the delaying action because the Democratic majority had failed to approve the appointment of three federal judges before Memorial Day as had been promised.

``We hate to hold up the climate bill,'' McConnell told reporters, indicating he was ready to go back to the bill, once his point had been made about the judges. He said Republicans had a number of amendments for the bill.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., accused the Republicans of obstruction and ``doing everything in their power to slow, stop and stall'' on urgent legislation to address global warming.

A Reid spokesman, Jim Manley, blamed Republicans for not getting two of the judicial nominations out of the Judiciary Committee and said a third judge, in fact, had been approved. Reid's pledge was based on ``Republican cooperation'' that he did not get, said Manley.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., a lead co-sponsor of the climate bill, said the GOP was ``just stalling this bill. ... All they want to do is kill this bill.''

The climate bill's supporters include most Democrats and a handful of Republicans. Along with Boxer, the leading sponsors are Sens. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and John Warner, R-Va. It has been the subject of Senate floor debate since Monday, but senators have done little more than talk so far.

Reid had said he wanted the bill finished by early next week, but aides said he may now move to significantly limit amendments and bring the issue to a close as early as Friday.

If so, he would need 60 votes to overcome a GOP filibuster and move to a final vote, something senators on both sides say he is unlikely to get. If he fails, Reid would likely withdraw the bill, leaving the issue for next year with a new president and a new Congress.

Some Republicans complained Monday that Reid was maneuvering to prevent Republicans from offering their amendments and was trying to push through a huge and complex bill in a matter of days with inadequate debate.

Sen. Pete Domenici, R-N.M., noted that when Congress took up changes in the Clean Air Act in 1990 - an equally complex piece of legislation - the Senate took five weeks before passing it.

``This legislation is far reaching. It is economy wide,'' Domenici said.

[Standing Wolf]

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change.

Witch hunts would make as much sense.

[HankB]

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change. create a new revenue stream for government, enlarge the bureaucracy, create a new revenue stream for government, reduce American competitiveness further, create a new revenue stream for government, exert further control over people's daily lives, and create a new revenue stream for government.

Fixed it.

[Manedwolf]

The bill, the most ambitious legislation on global warming ever taken up in Congress, would cut carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions by 71 percent by mid-century from power plants, refineries, factories and transportation.

Sure. We can just turn off all the lights and be like parts of Africa. That's something to aspire to.

The scariest thing? If you showed video of the planet with all the cities going dark, the greenie leftists would cheer. They never realize that they'd cry a day later when they couldn't get their lattes, their Facebook was dark, and the things with icky guns came out of the dark to take whatever food they had left.

[longeyes]

We have seen the return of the "noble savage," and he is us.

[HankB]

. . . If you showed video of the planet with all the cities going dark, the greenie leftists would cheer. They never realize that they'd cry a day later when they couldn't get their lattes, their Facebook was dark, and the things with icky guns came out of the dark to take whatever food they had left.

Except the greenie leftists would use the remaining power, since they buy indulgences carbon credits to allow themselves to continue generating the carbon footprint of a small village. People like Algore will probably have access to the extra taxes you pay in order to buy themselves armed security.

Actually, I think that's one of the most damning indictments of the so-called environmentalists in government, and I believe it's compelling evidence that they don't believe a word they're saying - they won't downgrade their lifestyles, they want you to downgrade your lifestyle. And pay more in the process.  

[charby]

. . . If you showed video of the planet with all the cities going dark, the greenie leftists would cheer. They never realize that they'd cry a day later when they couldn't get their lattes, their Facebook was dark, and the things with icky guns came out of the dark to take whatever food they had left.

Except the greenie leftists would use the remaining power, since they buy indulgences carbon credits to allow themselves to continue generating the carbon footprint of a small village. People like Algore will probably have access to the extra taxes you pay in order to buy themselves armed security.

Actually, I think that's one of the most damning indictments of the so-called environmentalists in government, and I believe it's compelling evidence that they don't believe a word they're saying - they won't downgrade their lifestyles, they want you to downgrade your lifestyle. And pay more in the process.  

I friend of mine and I started calling them enviro-elitists. Mostly because the amount of money they spend to feel good about themselves and being green.

[xavier fremboe]

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change.

Will someone please remind me why we want to be in a leadership role again?  Isn't it kind of like castrating yourself and then handing the knife to the next guy and saying "Your turn!"

Makes me want to go burn a pile of tires...

[The Annoyed Man]

492 pages.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VO6DORwBzuA

[Desertdog]

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change.

To me, they think they are God. 
Mother Nature is going to do what Mother Nature wants to do.

[Manedwolf]

Its sponsors said the mandatory reductions are essential to put the United States in a leadership role in global attempts to head off dangerous climate change.

To me, they think they are God. 
Mother Nature is going to do what Mother Nature wants to do.

Tax that.

[Iain]

Is that Inhofe or Morano exploding?

[Manedwolf]

Pinatubo. Or it could be one of the Dems if they don't get their way.

[El Tejon]

Mane, O.K., I just taxed it.  You owe me 100K round of .308 for that eruption.

[Manedwolf]

Mane, O.K., I just taxed it.  You owe me 100K round of .308 for that eruption.

No, no. You need to tax the volcano for the carbon emissions. Or forbid it to erupt again. Go have a dialogue with it when it's about to erupt, so it won't. Face-to-face.

Can we convince the Dems to do that?

[El Tejon]

Look, I cannot collect taxes on a pile of rock.

[roo_ster]

Look, I cannot collect taxes on a pile of rock.

Yep, it is hard to shake taxes out of welfare recipients.

[Waitone]

Got it wrong.  Simply subtract the volcano's carbon contribution from the US allotment. 

Hokum!

[Manedwolf]

Got it wrong.  Simply subtract the volcano's carbon contribution from the US allotment. 

Hokum!

If Krakatoa went, they'd have to drop a JDAM on ALGORE's mansion.

[xavier fremboe]

Got it wrong.  Simply subtract the volcano's carbon contribution from the US allotment. 

Hokum!

If Krakatoa went, they'd have to drop a JDAM on ALGORE's mansion.

Pre-emptive strike?

[Desertdog]

It appears I may have spoken too soon.  Damn it!

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Steve Elliott, President, Grassfire.org Alliance


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++++++++++++++++++++

********., after some late night maneuverings by Senate Majority
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       citizen response.

       Senate Environmental and Public Works Chairman Barbara
       Boxer when asked what she was doing to calm the growing
       concerns of her colleagues, replied, "My concern is just
       getting the bill out there. Weve done that. From here on out,
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[AZRedhawk44]

Tax that.

Wow.  Their whole argument just crumpled up like a piece of recycled toilet paper.  I laughed so hard at that picture... I thought it was a nuclear bomb at first, thinking that it was a statement on government hypocracy.  Realized a second later that it was a volcano and therefore completely "natural," and an even better statement.

The tax is obviously punitive, not intented for environmental rehabilitation efforts in the least.  We don't have the power to reverse "global warming" even if it does exist beyond the scope of solar output fluctuation, and government involvement in its "regulation" is impossible in any way except punitive.

I abhorr any such tax, I will keep my V8 truck through thick and thin.  If I have to, I will mothball the engine and convert the thing to 100% electric and power it via battery, while charging it at home with solar cells just to screw the government as much as possible.  This is a hate-fest against large vehicles and people with more freedom to pursue their hobbies and interests than others.  Very well... I declare my own hate-fest against unwashed hippies, washed hippies (if they exist), transients, Obamicans, Mexifornians and Neopolitan ice cream. 

I will now do everything in my power to un-fund all those things, starting immediately with a pledge to abstain from square blocks of ice cream of any type encased in a thin paper sleeve.  Take that!  Next stop:  washed hippies...  I've got some patchioulli sitting around somewhere to turn into a good old fashioned stink-bomb...

[RaspberrySurprise]

What did Neapolitan ice cream ever do to you?

[Manedwolf]

Hippies get washed when the police have to use the water cannon.

[charby]

You forgot women with hairy armpits.