HMS Bounty sinks

[Ron]

Lost power and started taking on water in high seas off of North Carolina.

Crew had to abandon ship.

May have possibly lost a couple crew members.

http://fox4kc.com/2012/10/29/crew-abandons-hms-bounty-ship-awaits-rescue-while-sandy-rages-around-them/

[MillCreek]

Noting that this ship was in a couple of the 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movies, did anyone notice if Captain Sparrow was nearby? 

[AZRedhawk44]

That is a shame.

I love those old beautiful clippers and ships of the line.

I've never seen the Bounty, but I did see the Golden Hind as a child.

I hope all crew are saved.

[lupinus]

Yeah, let's go sailing in the hurricane. Smooth

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[Jamisjockey]

Yeah, let's go sailing in the hurricane. Smooth

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They were probably already enroute somewhere or trying to move the boat out of the path.  Those boats don't do anything fast.

[never_retreat]

Who wants so go scuba diving on a newly sunk 3 masted schooner. Never thought I would say that. Any idea of the position and depth?

[S. Williamson]

Lost power and started taking on water in high seas off of North Carolina.

What, was it a calm day or something? 

[Jamisjockey]

What, was it a calm day or something? 

I'd bet dollars to donuts it had a mechanical back up. 

[Tallpine]

I'd bet dollars to donuts it had a mechanical back up. 

You can't expect the crew to actually work those big handles on the deck by the mainmast 

Who wants so go scuba diving on a newly sunk 3 masted schooner. Never thought I would say that. Any idea of the position and depth?

Not a schooner.  Schooners are strictly fore-and-aft rigged, except for an occasional square topsail.

[Jamisjockey]

You can't expect the crew to actually work those big handles on the deck by the mainmast 


Not a schooner.  Schooners are strictly fore-and-aft rigged, except for an occasional square topsail.

I'm not talking about the rigging, I mean it likely had some sort of engines. 

[Hutch]

That is a shame.

I love those old beautiful clippers and ships of the line.

I've never seen the Bounty, but I did see the Golden Hind as a child.

I hope all crew are saved.

Allowing my inner AH to shine... The Bounty was neither a clipper ship or ship of the line.  It was a pretty, thing, tho', wasn't it?

[vaskidmark]

The Coast Guard received an emergency call from the ship’s owner Sunday after the 80-foot, three-masted vessel lost power and started taking on water,

A sailing vessle loses power when the wind stops.

A motor-sailer, especially with all sails reefed, loses power when the motor fails.

I've never sailed on anything as big as that, but even a single-masted sloop is easier to deal with under motor power than trying to haul sheets and yards about in a storm.  It also allows most of the folks aboard to stay relatively dry inside.

Seems when the motor stopped the pumps stopped and either the hand pumps were not sufficient or they did not have any.

As risky as it is, it is more prudent to get into a modern life raft as early on in the unfolding drama as is possible.  You can always climb out afterwards and look for your boat (please do NOT tie your raft to your boat - although I have seen folks do that during practice drills).  Once the seas start getting rough it is more difficult to move about - haven't we all watch Deadliest Catch often enough to know that?  The thing is, there is usually a very short period of time between "as early on in the unfolding drama" and "Oh, fudge!  It's too late and we're all gonna die!".

Prayers for the missing.  I'm not sure how far off shore they were when they went over, so can't begin to guess if they even have a chance of being driven onto the beach.

stay safe.

[Tallpine]

Allowing my inner AH to shine... The Bounty was neither a clipper ship or ship of the line.  It was a pretty, thing, tho', wasn't it?

IIRC, it was originally a coastal coal hauling vessel 

I'm not talking about the rigging, I mean it likely had some sort of engines. 

I was thinking about those big manual pumps that ships of that era used to have: big long handles that several men could work up and down.  (sorta like the teeter totter handles on those hand pump railcars)

Maybe the ones on the Bounty were just for looks 

[Marnoot]

IIRC, it was originally a coastal coal hauling vessel  

Yep, the original HMS Bounty was a merchant vessel before the royal navy bought it in the late 1700's for a botanical mission (per wikipedia). This Bounty was built in 1960 for a movie.

[dm1333]

Yeah, let's go sailing in the hurricane. Smooth

It didn't work out in this case but in a storm like that you stand less of a chance of losing the ship by riding it out at sea then you do staying moored or anchored in a harbor somewhere.  I didn't hear anything about it this time but when a hurricane is coming both the Navy and Coast Guard often stand out to sea instead of trying to stay moored up.

[lupinus]

It didn't work out in this case but in a storm like that you stand less of a chance of losing the ship by riding it out at sea then you do staying moored or anchored in a harbor somewhere.  I didn't hear anything about it this time but when a hurricane is coming both the Navy and Coast Guard often stand out to sea instead of trying to stay moored up.

True, but depends on a number of factors. If you have a ship that is capable of taking the weather then it is safer. If not, it's safer to find sufficient shelter. Something tells me that this type of ship wasn't capable of handling the weather.

[Tallpine]

Yep, the original HMS Bounty was a merchant vessel before the royal navy bought it in the late 1700's for a botanical mission (per wikipedia). This Bounty was built in 1960 for a movie.

Yes, the original Bounty was scuttled at Pitairn Island by Fletcher and company 

I was speaking of the type of vessel - but who know how closely the reproduction followed anything historical 

[MillCreek]

Yes, the original Bounty was scuttled at Pitairn Island by Fletcher and company 

I was speaking of the type of vessel - but who know how closely the reproduction followed anything historical 

I have been onboard the Lady Washington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Washington) several times.  They do have an auxiliary engine and all the required Coast Guard life safety gear.  They also have tucked away a modern galley and head but have a reproduction of the original galley, head and crew accommodation. So to my untrained eye, it looks about as authentic as can be, given the regulatory requirements and accommodation of the crew in reasonable conditions. 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Bailing is.often overlooked in boat crisis  ie failed pumps. You would be amazed.how much water can be moved by hand if alternative is swimming.

[Tallpine]

Best I could find on short notice:

(double action pumps - sucker rod on one side is going down while the other side is pulling water up)

[Jamisjockey]

Bailing is.often overlooked in boat crisis  ie failed pumps. You would be amazed.how much water can be moved by hand if alternative is swimming.

Plumber's pump FTW!



http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=99138&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50632&subdeptNum=50633&classNum=50636

Reminds me to add that to my winter shopping list.

[Tallpine]

Plumber's pump FTW!



http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=99138&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50632&subdeptNum=50633&classNum=50636

Reminds me to add that to my winter shopping list.

Get the bikini girls to run those 

[Jamisjockey]

Get the bikini girls to run those 

I'll be in my bunk.

[Strings]

Spoon told me about this while I was at the hotel. Like I said to her: "they should have mutinied"