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Title: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Scout26 on October 07, 2013, 12:27:09 PM
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area


Money quote:  (pun intended)

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"Of course, I want people to have health care," Vinson said. "I just didn't realize I would be the one who was going to pay for it personally."


BWWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!

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Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: RevDisk on October 07, 2013, 12:51:30 PM
Ayep.

Want more government? You'll get it. And pay for it.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: roo_ster on October 07, 2013, 01:32:02 PM
I love to hear the wails of lefty despair.  Usually happens when their notions rub up against abrasive reality.

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard."
----H. L. Mencken

Hope he likes it good and hard.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Northwoods on October 07, 2013, 02:15:03 PM
The top page of comments was, except for exactly one, all to the effect "You made your bed, Libs.  Now sleep in it."
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: brimic on October 07, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
Unfortunately we all have to sleep in that bed. =(
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: mtnbkr on October 07, 2013, 02:41:05 PM
I don't think it matters.  To the true believers, this was always a baby step towards single-payer, that much has been admitted by the lefties I know.  That it is painful in the extreme just means we'll move toward that goal even faster in their eyes.

Chris
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 07, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
I don't think it matters.  To the true believers, this was always a baby step towards single-payer, that much has been admitted by the lefties I know.  That it is painful in the extreme just means we'll move toward that goal even faster in their eyes.

Chris

There is a video of beloved leader saying just that


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Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: AJ Dual on October 07, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
I don't think it matters.  To the true believers, this was always a baby step towards single-payer, that much has been admitted by the lefties I know.  That it is painful in the extreme just means we'll move toward that goal even faster in their eyes.

Chris

I agree. The issue now is if they over-reached or were incompetent in just how far they went in intentionally making it "structurally bad" to force the adoption of single-payer, that we might yet see a rollback somehow.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: brimic on October 07, 2013, 02:53:45 PM
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that we might yet see a rollback somehow.

That word 'somehow' could be very interesting.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Jocassee on October 07, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
Single payer here we come.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Scout26 on October 07, 2013, 06:02:31 PM
Really.  I do think that there is a block that would agree with anything and everything Obama utters, but I gotta believer that this has been enough of a disaster, still on-going, as people finally get to see what their *FREE* healthcare is going to cost them, along with the job cuts.  Especially when employers say "We've got 58 people that work here.  We're letting nine of you go so we can be under 50." or "We're not providing insurance anymore, go get it on the exchanges." or "Screw it, were cutting everyone to 28 hours and hiring a bunch of temps/other part-timers."

Yes, the big ones make the news, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, UPS, etc.  But most Americans work for small businesses.  What happens there will be telling.  And what happens in Washington with Shutdown/Debt Ceiling etc. won't matter a hill of beans as the lights start going out one by one....
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: brimic on October 07, 2013, 06:23:14 PM
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Especially when employers say "We've got 58 people that work here.  We're letting nine of you go so we can be under 50." or "We're not providing insurance anymore, go get it on the exchanges." or "Screw it, were cutting everyone to 28 hours and hiring a bunch of temps/other part-timers."

Yes, the big ones make the news, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, UPS, etc.  But most Americans work for small businesses.  What happens there will be telling.  And what happens in Washington with Shutdown/Debt Ceiling etc. won't matter a hill of beans as the lights start going out one by one....

What you'll end up with is the leftist 'brain trust' coming up with ideas like making it mandatory to work 40hrs, making it impossible to fire someone, wage and price controls, etc and this thing will spiral down pretty quick.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: lee n. field on October 07, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
What you'll end up with is the leftist 'brain trust' coming up with ideas like making it mandatory to work 40hrs, making it impossible to fire someone, wage and price controls, etc and this thing will spiral down pretty quick.

Directive 1-289

Yep, that'll end well.
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 07, 2013, 08:27:03 PM
Really.  I do think that there is a black that would agree with anything and everything Obama utters....


That's racist!
Title: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: Monkeyleg on October 07, 2013, 09:25:43 PM
The thing with liberals is that they never admit failure. Instead, they double down on the failure, thinking that more of the same will solve the problem. So, look for more Obamacare, not less.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Obamacare - Teaching Liberals TANSTAAFL
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on October 09, 2013, 07:33:33 AM
The thing with liberals is that they never admit failure. Instead, they double down on the failure, thinking that more of the same will solve the problem. So, look for more Obamacare, not less.
This in spades

damn phone