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« on: July 04, 2006, 11:33:59 AM »
The guitar itself is amazing, but the guy's technique is just astonishing.

http://www.doolinguitars.com/videos/knockonwood.mov

http://www.doolinguitars.com/king.html

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 08:37:58 AM »
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The guitar itself is amazing, but the guy's technique is just astonishing.

http://www.doolinguitars.com/videos/knockonwood.mov

http://www.doolinguitars.com/king.html

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He is pretty good but if you want to check out some more broad innovative "percussive" acoustic playing try Michael Hedges:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search=michael+hedges&search_type=search_videos&search=Search

Also, some more incredible playing by Jerry C:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTb5xx2xA8g&search=jerry%20c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13WVvw8h-oY&search=jerry%20c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdlovtN7gZw&search=jerry%20c

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 08:57:25 AM »
Heh, Jerry C. Not my kind of thing but he is good.

Decided the other day to break out of a rut with the guitar and start learning something entirely new, so lap slide is where I'm going. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc68_eoSRoo&search=kelly%20joe%20phelps

Maybe one day I'll have a chance with this sort of playing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koX0ZtUOYNM&search=tiger%20django
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 09:53:04 AM »
Wow, That's some awesome guitar playing. I'm not sure I'm really like it yet (yeah, right. Eveytime I say that about some sort of music I end up usually listening to it over and over.), but I can see the talent and skill there.


Nows here's the type of guitar playing I really like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBRluhR6v8U&search=doyle%20dykes

Makes me want to give up trying to play the guitar. Sad
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 12:44:04 PM »
My favorite Hedges work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTC7kPZZmuM

A little of Segovia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZtrN4q9sMA

This, however, is more my style... Cheesy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KL78ufx2Yw
and the full song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7kut2-uSIQ

Some people call it "speed without style."  I say that the style is just not what they're used to. Smiley

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I said somthing like that once while watching a Dream Theater video while my brother was in the room.  His reply?  "It makes me want to be as good as, if not better, than him." Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 03:56:59 PM »
IMHO people that say speed can't be expressive don't have the talent to play it. I find all kinds of playing expressive. You can't tell me that Yngwie isn't playing expressively:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S2mRY1QeY4&search=yngwie%20orchestra

When I was in middle school and high school I studied classical nearly exclusively. Now, I'm finally learning to shred. I bought an Ibanez RG-2550 and it is screaming through my Marshall! I even spent a year or so learning fingerstyle a la Chet Atkins and Phil Keaggy...

...moral of the story: ALL guitar styles are awesome!

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2006, 03:58:52 PM »
+1 for Michael Hedges (RIP) Sad

I've played since 1975, and listened to a huge cross-section of guitarists and music.
I have folks I listen to for respect of their guitar technique, and music I listen to just to enjoy.

From the first notes of Aerial Boundaries, though, there was something that took my breath away.

He kept doing it with every successive release.

And when I got to see him at an old, old 300 seat theater in Knoxville, it was just Michael and a guitar.
The high point, for me, was his cover of All Along the Watchtower.

And, bar NONE, the best concert (among hundreds) I ever saw.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 04:45:52 PM »
A guitarist who continually amazes me:

http://www.tommyemmanuel.com
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 05:03:00 PM »
Thank you for posting that, Gewehr!

Tommy is very talented, and brings such joy to his playing, it sort of reminds me of the euphoric way Chuck Mangione played flugelhorn around the time he put out Children of Sanchez.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 05:11:28 PM »
Here's a young guitarist you might want to keep an eye on, Eric Steckel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdVDbrcPZCo&mode=related&search=Eric%20Steckel

Although the blurb with this video says Steckel is 15 y.o., I believe he was closer to 11 when this was made.  He started playing when he was 9 and cut his first CD at 11.  He even has his own website:

http://www.ericsteckel.com/
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 07:46:31 PM »
A great guitarist that no one really knows about is the late, great Shawn Lane.  He is probably the most technically proficient and fastest guitar player ever.  However, he also writes the best music that I believe exists.  Unfortunately he died back in 2003, but he leaves a legacy of great music behind.

Pure speed exercise, don't judge his music by this - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7399429305992295351&q=shawn+lane

My favorite song from him called Gray Piano's Flying, beautifully played - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6903405308893996584&q=shawn+lane

A song called Rice with the Angels, another great tune of his, shows his improvisation in a live situation which is his best playing in my opinion - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4028467210125694370&q=shawn+lane

Get You Back is a song where he really builds up the tension and is pretty catchy - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1448085402385371685&q=shawn+lane

An Excerpt from a song of his called Abstract Logic, very foreign sounding but great - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoqRENuuLrs&search=shawn%20lane

Insane show of speed - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5607575793159275965&q=shawn+lane

Last of all, his great expressiveness on his cover of Once Upon a Time in the West - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iEHvbfQvw4&search=shawn%20lane

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2006, 03:08:02 AM »
You have to ask yourself, is the guitarist playing fast because it BELONGS or FITS there or is he (or she) playing fast for nothing more than than the sake of playing fast? My favorite is Al DiMeola. Plays fast as hell but none of it fits. Speaking of classical I just had the old David S. Daly out yesterday and played a few excerpts from Sor's Opus 28 on it. Apparently I still "rock" cause even though I hadn't touched it in a loooong time I was STILL able to piece a good portion of it together. Cheesy
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2006, 08:24:23 AM »
Cool thread Smiley

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2006, 10:55:17 AM »
I feel like I should confess that I am utterly unmoved by that kind of super-fast technically brilliant guitar playing, at least in terms of musical interest.  My own personal tastes run more toward Albert Collins, Lightnin' Hopkins, and Doc Watson.  They're not as flashy, but I've always liked them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H48g52ofNew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8I2GYRA0k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyMv7qRQDa4

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 01:16:48 PM »
I enjoy a bit of showmanship, every now and then, but...

Have you ever heard the phrase "Fret-w*nking"? If not, Jerry C is the epitomy of the fret-w*nker. Not to say that he's a bad guitarist, by any means (or a bad person -- I don't know the guy personally). But there's a reason that he's playing alone in his bedroom, not with a band onstage.

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 02:22:17 PM »
Could ya give us a hint on the vowel? I'm thinking a or o... Tongue

I think I know what you mean though.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2006, 02:55:03 PM »
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Could ya give us a hint on the vowel? I'm thinking a or o... Tongue

I think I know what you mean though.
It's a truly excellent English word.

I do know what you mean about fret w*nking, I do respect the technical aspects, but strangely I'm getting more and more drawn back to the simpler stuff I used to like when I was first playing - Mississippi John Hurt is a long time favourite, guess I should figure out a slide version of 'Ain't no tellin'.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2006, 03:26:15 PM »
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I enjoy a bit of showmanship, every now and then, but...

Have you ever heard the phrase "Fret-w*nking"? If not, Jerry C is the epitomy of the fret-w*nker. Not to say that he's a bad guitarist, by any means (or a bad person -- I don't know the guy personally). But there's a reason that he's playing alone in his bedroom, not with a band onstage.
I'm the Fret-w%nk master! I don't have any aspirations of playing in public because I definitely have my hands tied with my professional life, boxing, and pretty soon, grad school. I love Jerry C because he can play kick ass guitar music by himself, which is exactly what I like to do.

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2006, 07:48:04 AM »
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Could ya give us a hint on the vowel? I'm thinking a or o...
It's an "a"... People seem to get away with using the word on THR, but as far as I'm concerned, it's not really the done thing. Not that i have any problem with swearing per se, just not on here or THR... Wink

If fret-w*nking is your thing, then go for it Daniel! I've nothing against technicians who get their kicks that way. It just gets a bit much for me, after a while... I suppose fret-w*nking is a somewhat snooty phrase, but it's rather an apt one.

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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2006, 11:23:27 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2006, 03:13:45 PM »
What happened to everybody? I hope you didn't think that was ME playing that little solo and get scared away. Tongue

I'm still trying to grasp this fret ******* business. Call me out of the loop but NEVER late for supper! I'm understanding it as a lot of hammer ons and pulloffs that mimic fast guitar work a la Eddie Van.

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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2006, 03:37:14 PM »
Fret w%nkers: Steve Vai, Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, et yada.
I do enjoy some of their work, but in small doses. Can't handle a whole CD.
Give me some expressive, soulful guitar and I'm in heaven. Without getting into the oldies, give me some pre-detox Clapton, Santana, Robert Cray, Buddy Guy, SRV, etc. Hell, give me some Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler!

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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2006, 04:47:15 AM »
I wouldn't put Vai, Satriani, and Eric Johnson in the real fretw*nkers group.  Sure, they can play really fast, but there's a whole other bunch of guys I'd put ahead of them as far as fretw*nking goes.  I've seen all of them live (actually talked with Satriani and Johnson on a few occasions) and they do ease up and play quite soulful stuff.  Back in the late 80s and early 90s, I tried to get down to Liberty Lunch whenever Eric Johnson was in town.  His live playing was full of expression and every note seemed to have its place.  After his regular set, he would often take requests and play a lot of Hendrix and other bluesy stuff that had little speed to it.  Maybe my idea of fretw*nking is different, but I played in a band with a guy who I think defined it.  He played as fast as anyone I've ever heard, but it was often totally out of place, added nothing to the music and got old pretty quick.  I could never play that fast, but often got comments from people who heard us about how much better my playing sounded to them.  I jammed with him a time or two after he got out of GIT and he had become a very good guitar player, but he still had the urge to drop in some pointless weedly-deedly here and there.  I truly appreciate technical proficiency, but only when it sounds good.  Making music is an art, not a sport, and speed isn't necessarily a key to success.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2006, 11:13:34 AM »
Let me add Billy Gibbons and David Gilmour to the list of favorite soulfuls. Those are my main influences. Both are the epitome of "less is more". Prime examples of how leaving empty space is just as or maybe even MORE creative as is filling it with as many notes as possible. I have a friend who plays as fast as anyone around, he feels the necessity of filling every little bit of space with notes. He HATES Gibbons and Gilmour. Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2006, 02:11:07 PM »
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What happened to everybody? I hope you didn't think that was ME playing that little solo and get scared away.
Sorry dude, I was elsewhere. Yup, that's definitely fret-w*nking.

The definition of the fret-w*nk really depends on who you're talking to. Back when "Grunge" was the in-thing and "Hair Metal" was about as un-cool as it gets, any guitar solo was derided as fret-w*nking. Personally, I'd go with crt360s definition -- not just fast solos, but out of place fast solos. Showing-off for the sake of it, in other words. I wouldn't call the guys from Slayer "fret-w*nkers" (well, not to their faces, obviously Cheesy), because their solos fit in with the songs.

Got to say, though -- Steve Vai is usually regarded as fret-w*nk royalty.