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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2007, 08:16:02 PM »
I was disappointed. It's high time somebody stood up to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. But despite his big insult-comic act, Imus is evidently a coward.

He just wants his gravy train to keep rolling.  If you could make a comfortable living by insulting others, you wouldn't want it to end.

Never cared for Imus myself, but I do believe he is being condemned excessively.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2007, 11:39:33 PM »
To answer one of the original questions&
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And is "nappy" a racial slur?  I thought it was a hair-care issue.
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You know if I was black, I would really want to push for better representatives of my race.
We tried that, but they kept getting, yknow, killed.
Actually, Jackson, Sharpton and their ilk are no more representative of us than Kennedy, Hillary, et al are representative of the entire White race. You have hard-working law-abiding gun-loving Black folk who mind their own business and you have inner city race-mongering hoodlums who dont know how to act if you put more than two of them in a room. Guess who the media is going to portray as representative of the race?
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2007, 03:50:58 AM »
Scoop Jackson was a FDR Democrat (elected to US House in 1940) who was not dazzled by the communitsts and retained his pro-American views unitl his death in 1983.

After the 1960s, Vietnam, etc., there really was little room for pro-American, anti-Communist Democrats in the Democrat Party.  They became Reagan Democrats and akin to neo-conservatives (pro-America, big-gov't types).  Reagan's famous line was, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me."  It applied to lots of Democrats, which is one of the reasons the Republicans won the Presidency much more often than Dems after LBJ.

When Republicans or conservatives lament the extinction of Scoop Jackson Democrats, it is an expression of loss for a loyal (to America) opposition party, rather than the Democrat Party of today.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2007, 04:27:59 AM »
When I first began becoming aware of politics (c.1968) there were a number of lights in the Democratic Party.  Among them were Jackson and Hubert Humphrey, Ed Muskie, and among the last was Moynihan.  They were certainly liberals and one could disagree with their views.  But they were largely men of integrity for whom winning was not everything.  Most if not all were staunch anti-communists.

A shame to see what happened to the Dems since.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2007, 05:51:29 AM »
I keep hearing about "Scoop Jackson" as an example of how the Democratic Party used to be more mainstream, which is to say conservative.  Probably just has to do with radio talkers being older than me.  Nevermind.   smiley

Scoop Jackson was a democratic Representative and then Senator from Washington from the 1940's up until his death in 1983.  He was particularly well known for his conservative views on defense matters, an aggressive foreign policy outlook to contain the Soviet Union, aid to Israel, human rights, and environmental policy.  He was often criticized for his support of the war in Vietnam and his support for the internment of the Japanese-American population during WW II.

Scoop and his colleague, Warren Magnuson, the other Senator from Washington, served together in the Senate for decades, and were especially skilled for landing defense contracts that benefited Washington, such as Boeing, and the establishment and expansion of some military bases in the state.  It is sometimes said of Scoop that he never met a weapons program he did not like.

A 'Scoop Jackson Democrat' is a term used to describe a Democrat who generally believes in a strong national defense and an aggressive foreign policy in support of American interests.

I got to meet the man personally a few times before his death, and he was one heck of a nice guy.  His home in Everett is about 12 miles away from me, is on the National Registry of Historic Places, and I ride my bicycle past it all the time.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2007, 11:41:55 AM »
In light of all that we sure COULD use some "Scoop Jackson Democrats" today, not the snivelers that try to pass for them today.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2007, 01:31:36 PM »
Imus needs to grow a set and call this for what it is.  It's a shakedown. These people aren't 'offended'.  They see an opportunity to exploit a vulnerability, that's all.  They're predators, pure and simple.  Declare yourself a victim and reap the benefits.   Yet the charade continues.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2007, 02:12:55 PM »
Imus just got dropped by MSNBC.  The FCC is investigating.  rolleyes
http://www.wnbc.com/news/11621669/detail.html?rss=ny&psp=news

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2007, 05:51:02 PM »
Imus needs to grow a set and call this for what it is.  It's a shakedown. These people aren't 'offended'.  They see an opportunity to exploit a vulnerability, that's all.  They're predators, pure and simple.  Declare yourself a victim and reap the benefits.   Yet the charade continues.

I wonder if Imus has the wherewithal to see the shakedown and race-baiting that these guys engage in. 
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2007, 09:53:32 PM »
In a press conference, one of the girls from the team actually said they were hurt "mentally and physically" by the comment.

Another said she was "scarred for life."
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2007, 03:46:07 AM »
I heard a quick blurb on the radio where one gal said "I don't cept no pology" rolleyes

I went to an all black high school in the seventies (well a few white guys like me were around)
No teacher would have allowed such language in their class.

What the heck are they teaching now a days?
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2007, 04:47:12 AM »
Gunsmith,
If the teacher today tried to correct that type of language, he/she would be persecuted for not being compassionate to the plight of those who speak like this. He/she has to understand that learning the correct usage of the English language is too difficult and taxing for those people. 

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2007, 05:55:03 AM »
Finally! Some balls!!

IMUS: 'WHEN WILL SHARPTON APOLOGIZE TO DUKE PLAYERS'?
Thu Apr 12 2007 10:02:02 ET

Patrick Gavin with FISHBOWLDC reports on Imus's radio show this am...

Barely 12 hours after being fired from MSNBC...

6:12 AM: On Imus' radio program (no longer simulcast on MSNBC) this morning, Chris Carlin, who covers sports for the program, discussed yesterday's dismissal of charges against the Duke lacrosse players.

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      DON IMUS: When will Al Sharpton be apologizing to them?

      (LAUGHTER)

      CARLIN: I'm unaware of such a press conference.

      IMUS: I'll be darned...




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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2007, 06:09:34 AM »
They who are caught in a slow news cycle will be sacrificed to the ratings gods in the name of controversy.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2007, 12:04:29 PM »
They who are caught in a slow news cycle will be sacrificed to the ratings gods in the name of controversy.


Yup.  He just lost the radio show, too.   grin   Zumbowned. 

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2007, 01:23:12 PM »
Jeez,What he said was stupid.Hes apologized to everyone except me.
I don't think he should have fired fer cryin' out loud.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2007, 07:41:04 PM »
The question, for history, will be "Who was Don Imus?"
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2007, 01:34:26 AM »
Interesting the way the media will turn and feed on itself at the drop of a hat.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2007, 04:43:13 AM »
On CBS's Good Morning America this morning, they had Larry Elder from Los Angeles on. He basically said that the media and Big Al and Company were blowing it out of proportion. He also mentioned Al Sharpton's comments on Hymetown and how he was not crucified in the Media. It was interesting to watch Diane Sawyer try to force him into the position of the "outraged African American", but he did not bite.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2007, 04:49:21 AM »
In thinking about it, this is more about Sharpton/Jackson flexing Black Muscle than anything else.  They have shown they still have the juice and no one should ignore what they say.  And this is going into the 2008 campaign.  I think this really explains all the questions of why Imus, why now, why this more than anything else.
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #45 on: April 13, 2007, 05:06:05 AM »
I wonder if Ken Hamblin is still broadcasting and what they think of his comments regarding "nappy hair". 

In case you don't know, he is/was a conservative black commentator similar in vein to Rush Limbaugh.  I haven't been able to find him on the air in nearly 10 years.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2007, 06:05:10 AM »
It seems that Corzine was severely injured in an auto accident while travelling to mediate the meeting between Imus and the Rutgers Woman's basketball team. Was he racing to get there before Schumer could get in front of the camera?
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2007, 06:25:22 AM »
It seems that Corzine was severely injured in an auto accident while travelling to mediate the meeting between Imus and the Rutgers Woman's basketball team. Was he racing to get there before Schumer could get in front of the camera?
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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2007, 08:13:36 AM »
I am quite familiar with Imus, listening or watching for more than 10 years. I gave up on him last year but for my own unrelated reasons. But now I am strongly sympathetic because this political correctness thing has become so powerful that one cannot discuss what needs to be said about race and racial cultures in this country. That is not to say that Imus had any agenda here. I would not particularly justify the comment in question, but I wouldn't view it as nearly so damning as it has been made out to be. It all depends upon the context. For example, Carlos Mencia, as part of a comedy routine, can confront blacks with their cultural or even physical idiosyncrasies, but Don Imus cannot kid around in similar fashion.

I figure the reason both MSNBC and CBS Radio canceled so abruptly is because they were just waiting for an excuse...Howard Stern all over again. You watch...Imus will resurface on satellite radio, making even more money. I don't know about cable or satellite TV, but that would preserve the visual content of some of the comedy skits. On the other hand, Imus is old enough to retire, is wealthy, not very healthy, and would rather be on the ranch, not in New York. But his wife will have a lot to do about what he really choses to do. The guy is big time 'whipped.

Personally, I have no tears, because Imus was very powerful politically and provided a platform for either leftists or for beating up on conservatives of various stripes. He is also too focused on his wife's stuff rather than being the randy old bastard he was before he got married.

All I care about is this bizarre enforcement of political correctness, as if blacks are so powerful politically and economically that every white man is kissing up like they truly would have no personal feelings on cultural matters. Bottom line is that Imus represented sponsors, who would all run for cover if some racial controversy started. That leaves everyone a victim to any black who wants to play the race card in response to the slightest implication that the black community is truly different than the white and in many ways that need to be changed. The truth is that blacks for the most part are preoccupied with appearing to be different. Good luck to anyone who wants to point that out.

As a matter of fact, Congress has discussed breaking up or disassociating itself from the Congressional Black Caucus. They are not comfortable with so officially hosting racial polarity among their own body. All the caucus really does is promote any form of government handout or block anything that would diminish social spending, wars for example. That's why blacks (100% of blacks in Congress) are Democratic socialists instead of Republicans.

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Re: Who's Don Imus, anyway?
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2007, 09:41:44 AM »
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...now I am strongly sympathetic because this political correctness thing has become so powerful that one cannot discuss what needs to be said about race and racial cultures in this country.
Only if you are white.

I saw a news video where Sharpton said this language was just not acceptable.  My questions is, "If that is the case, why do you and the Reverend Jackson not make a big to do about that very same language, those very same words, in the hip-hop 'songs' by black artists?"

Another question I have is, "What churches are the Reverends Sharpton and Jackson the Reverends of?"

Oh, and by the way, there are a couple of white girls on that team.
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