Why pick violence as the major criteria?

[vaskidmark]

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/01/life-as-a-nonviolent-psychopath/282271/

Kinda-sorta my life story as well, just without the exotic trips as an adult.  Did get to do a fair number as a pre-teen/teen.

So what's the big deal with focusing on violence as the big bad bugaboo about being psychotic psychopathic?  In case the good doctor and his ilk have not noticed, lawyers and used car salesmen and the President all rank lower in public approval than murderers.

For anybody that's interested in the subject I recommend Adrian Raine's The Anatomy of Violence, especially for his documentation on nature vs. nurture and the plasticity of psychopathy.  (Yes, it's a "popular science" book but a good place to begin finding your way to and through the "hard science" research.)

Without access to brain scans I'm guessing that at least 25% of APS meet both the DSM-V and Robert Hare's definition of psychopathy.  Brain scans are only likely to find the more hidden ones.

stay safe.

ETA: runaway fingers typed the wrong syndrome.

[Northwoods]

Without access to brain scans I'm guessing that at least 25% of APS meet both the DSM-V and Robert Hare's definition of psychopathy. 

So, what is said definition?

[vaskidmark]

So, what is said definition?

Is Google broken?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-psychopath-means/  - and I disagree with their statement that physical violence is always present.  See my post above for why.

stay safe.

[RoadKingLarry]

Is Google broken?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-psychopath-means/  - and I disagree with their statement that physical violence is always present.  See my post above for why.

stay safe.

Well, that explains a few things...

[Firethorn]

Is Google broken?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-psychopath-means/  - and I disagree with their statement that physical violence is always present.  See my post above for why.

stay safe.

Favorite part of that article, on the response to Inuit 'kunlangeta'(psychopaths) - “Somebody would have pushed him off the ice when nobody else was looking.”

I figure that there are plenty of psychopaths out there who follow the rules of society because it's such a pain to NOT follow them.  I don't fit many of the definitions(unsocial, for one), but I term it 'the social contract'.  I agree to not murder, rape, steal and such as the price for entry/remaining within society and I get to benefit from said society - easy access to water, food, shelter, medical care, and entertainment.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Very interesting read. Hope sis doesn't see it

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[vaskidmark]

Very interesting read. Hope sis doesn't see it

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I thought only vampires were afraid of mirrors. 

stay safe.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I thought only vampires were afraid of mirrors. 

stay safe.

If she reads it the nephew's won't be allowed to visit.  I am already in trouble for trying to get them to tryout new stungun for me

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[brimic]

Favorite part of that article, on the response to Inuit 'kunlangeta'(psychopaths) - “Somebody would have pushed him off the ice when nobody else was looking.”

Its the same as the airlock and pressure suit 'accidents' described in TMIAHM.

[Ron]

If he is changing his behavior for his family members then I question how far down the spectrum he really is regarding being a psychopath. Especially combined with the lack of violent tendencies. Kudos to him for taking some responsibility for his behavior and making efforts to change.

Of course psychopath is just a label. The range and spectrum of human personality traits and all their subtleties is vast. One can demonstrate some psychopathic behaviors without clinically being considered a psychopath I suspect.

Some folks may welcome such a diagnosis as it would justify their narcissistic way of going through life. Much cooler being a psychopath than just a run of the mill narcissist 

     

[lee n. field]

So, what is said definition?

A bunch of behavioral markers. 

Mom isn't around, or I'd ask her.  Looking back, I must have been a weird kid.

[roo_ster]

I would caution about talking anything in the last seceral DSMs too seriously, given that they have become politically influenced.  In addition, the latest DSM-V also was also compiled in secret, with the authors/editors forcing nondisclosure agreements on participants.  Not exactly a transparent process open to inquiry and discussion.

It is truly a shame, as it is a legitimate and necessary field of study.  

[fifth_column]

I agree that violent tendencies should not be the focus when talking of pyschopathy.  In answer to the question of why; I'd have to say it's because violence has the potential to have the most detrimental effect on individuals and society as a whole. 

IMO the salient issue with pyschopaths is the lack of empathy, or often acknowledgement that others have validity or even exist.  A significant lack of emotional involvement in their own lives is probably the reason for this lack of empathy.  It's hard for a person to care about the plight of others when they themselves don't particularly care about their own existence, or the ending thereof.  Psychopaths have little or no emotional response, and have a tendency to see others as being puzzlingly emotional.  The author is making an attempt to pretend like he cares in order to please those around him that do care. 

I imagine that a pyschopath might engage in violence in order to try to feel something, anything, even horror is better than . . . nothing.

[vaskidmark]

....  The author is making an attempt to pretend like he cares in order to please those around him that do care.

Onceyou learn to fake sincerity, the rest is all downhill. 

I imagine that a pyschopath might engage in violence in order to try to feel something, anything, even horror is better than . . . nothing.

We may have a winner here.

stay safe.

[fifth_column]

It's been said the secret to success is sincerity.  Once you can fake that you've got it made. . .

[Matthew Carberry]

It's been said the secret to success is sincerity.  Once you can fake that you've got it made. . .

"I'll keep it short and sweet. Family, religion, friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."

- C.M. Burns