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Guns and "The Purge"
« on: July 12, 2016, 08:51:49 AM »
As I'm not one for slasher/horror/ultra-violence movies, I've never bothered to see any of the "Purge" franchise. The below review whine piqued my curiousity a little bit.

Trigger warning: hoplophobic hand-wringing and mindless NRA-bashing
http://www.rogerebert.com/balder-and-dash/violent-worship-the-hypocrisy-of-the-purge-films

Do the purge films take a political position on the right to self-defense? Or is it all just mindless stupidity? Or both?
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 12:02:43 PM »
Seemed like mindless violence to me, but the closest I got to watching them was the Cinema Sins youtube video on them. 
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 12:06:29 PM »
https://youtu.be/whr46paU4iY
Everything Wrong With The Purge In 13 Minutes Or Less
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 12:09:31 PM »
Many years ago I bought a cheap VHS tape of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre."  It was (IMHO) such a bad, disgusting, sick, pointless piece of overly violent  &**$ I erased the videotape and repurposed it.  I know there's been a remake and I will NOT see it.
I've heard of "The Purge," and that it now has a sequel (geeee, thanks Hollywood:  you really CAN'T think of anything new, can you?) and I strongly fear that these are the same kind of movie the Texas Chainsaw **** was .... and I won't be watching.
If it's antigun or anti NRA .... I dunno.  It may be, but that's "par for the course" these days.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 12:10:34 PM »
Yeah, NRA was behind creating The Purge movies.

If a purge ever comes about, I know who I'm going to purge first...
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 03:38:06 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on July 12, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
Yeah, NRA was behind creating The Purge movies.

If a purge ever comes about, I know who I'm going to purge first...
That is why I think it is a liberal concept.  They just want a way to get their crazy out periodically with no consequences.  They don't seem to follow the consequences through. 
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 03:44:43 PM »
I seem to remember a story we read in class in grade school where some town had an annual event.  At the event, one person would be selected by lottery and every else would stone them to death.  Supposedly everyone behaved the rest of the year so it was a good thing.  It was typically 'ends justify the means' gibberish.  Hearing about the Purge movie reminded me of that story.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 03:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on July 12, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
Yeah, NRA was behind creating The Purge movies.

If a purge ever comes about, I know who I'm going to purge first...

The director/writer said the whole movie was supposed to be an argument of hyperbole against what he thinks the NRA wants America to be like with everyone armed. But the reviewers are blasting him for immediately and hypocritically milking violence like any other horror or action movie.

In the review/editorial fistful linked to, the author seemed rather peeved the audience was cheering the violence, and that the movie seems to have sort of an "All in the Family"/Archie Bunker effect.  :rofl:
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 03:59:36 PM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on July 12, 2016, 03:46:11 PM
In the review/editorial fistful linked to, the author seemed rather peeved the audience was cheering the violence, and that the movie seems to have sort of an "All in the Family"/Archie Bunker effect.  :rofl:

That reminds me of an old interview with Sam Peckinpah.  He claimed that the gratuitous violence in his films was supposed to repulse the audience, and he was annoyed that it excited the viewers instead.

Or maybe it was Stanley Kubrick talking about A Clockwork Orange.  Whatever.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2016, 04:09:51 PM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on July 12, 2016, 03:46:11 PM
The director/writer said the whole movie was supposed to be an argument of hyperbole against what he thinks the NRA wants America to be like with everyone armed. But the reviewers are blasting him for immediately and hypocritically milking violence like any other horror or action movie.

In the review/editorial fistful linked to, the author seemed rather peeved the audience was cheering the violence, and that the movie seems to have sort of an "All in the Family"/Archie Bunker effect.  :rofl:

Yeah, I know... I was being sardonic...
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 06:15:30 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 12, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
I seem to remember a story we read in class in grade school where some town had an annual event.  At the event, one person would be selected by lottery and every else would stone them to death.  Supposedly everyone behaved the rest of the year so it was a good thing. 


The Lottery, by Shirley Jackson. Great little story. Probably included in every text book, or American short story anthology.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2016, 10:07:22 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 12, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
I seem to remember a story we read in class in grade school where some town had an annual event.  At the event, one person would be selected by lottery and every else would stone them to death.  Supposedly everyone behaved the rest of the year so it was a good thing.  It was typically 'ends justify the means' gibberish.  Hearing about the Purge movie reminded me of that story.

Shirley Jackson, "The Lottery".  Classic.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2016, 10:52:27 PM »
So was my memory of the plot accurate? 
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2016, 11:29:34 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on July 12, 2016, 10:52:27 PM
So was my memory of the plot accurate?  


Yeah, that's why two of us immediately knew what story you meant. I'm not sure why you mention the ends justifying the means. I think The Lottery is actually about the dangers of having a blind faith in tradition.
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2016, 10:54:49 AM »
I was thinking that even if it works like they believe and everyone behaves the rest of the year because they get it out of their system or something, they are still murdering someone once a year to achieve that.  
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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2016, 01:12:24 PM »
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So was my memory of the plot accurate?


http://sites.middlebury.edu/individualandthesociety/files/2010/09/jackson_lottery.pdf"

The lottery was a sacrifice to assure good crops.

"They do say," Mr. Adams said to Old Man Warner, who stood next to him, "that over in the north village they're talking of giving up the lottery."

Old Man Warner snorted. "Pack of crazy fools," he said. "Listening to the young folks, nothing's good enough for them. Next thing you know, they'll be wanting to go back to living in caves, nobody work any more, live that way for a while. Used to be a saying about 'Lottery in June, corn be heavy soon.' First thing you know, we'd all be eating stewed chickweed and acorns. There's always been a lottery," he added petulantly. "Bad enough to see young Joe Summers up there joking with everybody."

"Some places have already quit lotteries." Mrs. Adams said.

"Nothing but trouble in that," Old Man Warner said stoutly. "Pack of young fools."
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2016, 04:06:01 PM »
The Lottery is good.

The Haunting of Hill House is incredible.

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Re: Guns and "The Purge"
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2016, 04:21:28 PM »
Quote from: Mike Irwin on July 13, 2016, 04:06:01 PM
The Lottery is good.

The Haunting of Hill House is incredible.

The original "The Haunting" from 1962 is much better.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2016, 05:32:20 PM »
The Haunting was a movie adaptation of Jackson's Haunting of Hill House.

And a marginal one at that.

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« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2016, 08:04:45 PM »
I've seen the first one and couldn't figure out if it was just supposed to be a movie or if they had some sort of anti-gun message.
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