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WWIII.2.01?
« on: November 25, 2015, 06:38:22 PM »
 
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"This business will get out of control. It'll get out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it."

Things have been getting "interesting" over in the sand box.
I'm sure this bunch has been watching the events.
 
http://tass.ru/en/politics/839164

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/world/europe/turkey-syria-russia-military-plane.html?_r=0


Of course Obama rightly sided with NATO ally Turkey and called for a step back and a deep breath then poked Putin by criticizing their even being in Syria in the first place.


We do indeed live in interesting times.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 07:19:06 PM »
So version 1 was - what?  ???
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 07:38:19 PM »
If obama can *expletive deleted*ck this thing up, he will.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 09:15:19 PM »
Nato is supposed to be defensive.  if turkey picks a fight with the czar that is the turks problem.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 09:54:22 PM »
Anything to protect the "freedom fighters" who are so hard done by they all had to grow long beards, and apparently can only afford rusty knives for "military" use.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 10:00:24 PM »
No, really. If this is 2.0, then what was the first WWIII that I missed?  ???
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2015, 04:27:24 PM »
So enlighten me.. why does NATO want WWIII?

And enlighten me some more... why are we allowing our "dear leaders" to drag us into WWIII?
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2015, 09:36:47 PM »
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The president specially underscored yesterday that we have always tried to treat the regional interests of our neighbors with respect, including Turkey’s regional interests," Lavrov said.

Riiiiiiiiight. I'm sure the Ukrainians in the Crimea will conform that.

What?




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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2015, 11:42:37 AM »
Quote from: Blakenzy on November 26, 2015, 04:27:24 PM
So enlighten me.. why does NATO want WWIII?

And enlighten me some more... why are we allowing our "dear leaders" to drag us into WWIII?

The last two world wars were about financial systems going tits up. I can't think of a single major military power that is mearing a major currency crisis where a bubble is going to go BOOM in a big way, can you?
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2015, 01:48:34 PM »
Quote from: brimic on November 27, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
The last two world wars were about financial systems going tits up. I can't think of a single major military power that is mearing a major currency crisis where a bubble is going to go BOOM in a big way, can you?

Just all of them.   =D

Although a credible GOP candidate winning in 2016 might create a surge that causes the US GNP and employment to actually somewhat kinda/sorta start matching the monetization of FRN's. And as such, buoy all the other currencies, and stave off the inevitable yet another decade.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2015, 11:25:27 PM »
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2015, 05:54:40 AM »
Quote from: Boomhauer on December 01, 2015, 11:25:27 PM
Oh it just gets better. Isreal has troops in Syria.
http://news.yahoo.com/israel-pm-admits-forces-operating-war-hit-syria-194312782.html



Supporting who? Secularists who believe in freedom of religion for jews?
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2015, 06:09:59 AM »
Quote from: De Selby on December 02, 2015, 05:54:40 AM
Supporting who? Secularists who believe in freedom of religion for jews?

If you find those on the Arabian Peninsula you should support them.  Both of them.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2015, 06:15:36 AM »
Quote from: dogmush on December 02, 2015, 06:09:59 AM
If you find those on the Arabian Peninsula you should support them.  Both of them.

Bashar Assad and the Syrian Government would be one of the few camps.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2015, 08:33:38 AM »
Quote from: brimic on November 27, 2015, 11:42:37 AM
The last two world wars were about financial systems going tits up. <sarcasm>I can't think of a single major military power that is mearing a major currency crisis where a bubble is going to go BOOM in a big way, can you?</sarcasm>

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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2015, 09:55:05 AM »
Quote from: De Selby on December 02, 2015, 05:54:40 AM
Supporting who? Secularists who believe in freedom of religion for jews?

Sounds like rather than "supporting", it's mainly to interdict anyone using the wider conflict as cover for getting into Lebanon and move missiles, or ranged artillery on the northern border of Israel, or up by the Golan Heights on the Northwest corner.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2015, 11:35:43 AM »
Quote from: De Selby on December 02, 2015, 06:15:36 AM
Bashar Assad and the Syrian Government would be one of the few camps.

De Selby is in the right on this one.  In the ME, if you want amicable relations between disparate ethnic sorts and religious types, you need a ruthless and mostly secular dictator.  In Syria, that is Bashar Assad.

He might not be the ophthalmologist Syria wants, but he is the ophthalmologist Syria needs.
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Re: WWIII.2.01?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2015, 10:17:51 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on December 02, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
De Selby is in the right on this one.  In the ME, if you want amicable relations between disparate ethnic sorts and religious types, you need a ruthless and mostly secular dictator.  In Syria, that is Bashar Assad.

He might not be the ophthalmologist Syria wants, but he is the ophthalmologist Syria needs.

As much as it pains me to agree with Putin and DeSelby, Assad is the "best"* person for the job in Syria.




*- For very, very small values of "best", meaning nowhere near as bad as any/all of the other choices. 
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