Pastor Jones Gets His Birmingham Jail Moment

[roo_ster]

Also:
A Michigan Jury Finds That Muslims Can’t Be Expected To Control Themselves

http://patterico.com/2011/04/22/a-michigan-jury-finds-that-muslims-cant-be-expected-to-control-themselves-and-pastor-jones-gets-his-birmingham-jail-moment/

"Basically this is a special process by which a person can be accused of planning to breach the peace. And if they plan to breach the peace, they can be charged a bond to cover the estimated costs of such breach. So what we have is a full-on Minority Report situation, where we are prosecuting him not for what he has done, but what he might do. Indeed, more precisely we are prosecuting him based on what others might do if he does something that he might not himself do. "

Jones is the Koran-burning pastor from Florida who had planned on protesting in front of a mosque in Dearborn, MI.  The Dearbornians went all prior restraint/minority report on him.

Those fools trasnformed him from an ass to a martyr for free speech.

[birdman]

This is a bad sign.

[makattak]

This is a bad sign.

We're not even a minority and we're giving up our rights to appease the barbarians. (I say "we" even though I and most people here are unlikely to be among those who are "leading" us into Dhimmitude.)

[birdman]

We're not even a minority and we're giving up our rights to appease the barbarians. (I say "we" even though I and most people here are unlikely to be among those who are "leading" us into Dhimmitude.)

True, that's a bad sign, but the worse sign is the "enforcement" of a non-existent law

[MicroBalrog]

Were I an American Muslim, I would be outraged.

[roo_ster]

Were I an American Muslim, I would be outraged.

I bet a goodly number are.

[De Selby]

I bet if the city had just parked cars behind all of the pastors' vehicles, failed to investigate an assault on the pastor, and then hauled him in for questioning during his protest time we'd all be commending Michigan for its canny use of the law to keep the peace. 

Surely no one here would seriously consider a free speech regime where the content determines which restraints are valid, right?

[Matthew Carberry]

I bet if the city had just parked cars behind all of the pastors' vehicles, failed to investigate an assault on the pastor, and then hauled him in for questioning during his protest time we'd all be commending Michigan for its canny use of the law to keep the peace. 

Surely no one here would seriously consider a free speech regime where the content determines which restraints are valid, right?

You mean if private individuals had parked the cars right?

Cause that would actually be totally different in terms of rule of law.

The differential treatment of the assault shouldn't be allowed, though if the procedures and timelines were average for similar assaults, there's not a lot the police can do if witnesses refuse to testify.

Again, the hauling in for questioning during his planned protest time is problematic (again unless it followed the same procedures always used in similar situations) but since Jones was not time-limited by events (the length of the funeral) it wouldn' have worked regardless.  They would have had to used an indefinite detention without cause which is as prima facie unConstitutional as what actually happened to Jones anyway.

Don't you hate it when precision makes zinger generalizations kinda, well, less "zing-ey".

[GigaBuist]

The Dearbornians went all prior restraint/minority report on him.

Yeah, I can't imagine why they'd be concerned over the matter.  I mean, it'd been like a whole 24 hours since he SHOT HIS OWN CAR.

[Matthew Carberry]

Because he had to handle the gun because the tv station had a no carry policy.

Not to excuse the ND but it was preventable by a sensible policy of allowing carry inside.

[gunsmith]

I bet if the city
had just parked cars behind all of the pastors' vehicles,the city?? oh I think I know what you're talking about, a few private citizens private citizens private citizens private citizens private citizens & NOT THE CITY NOT THE CITY NOT THE CITY!!!!! blocked WBC. ... but its OK to misconstrue facts when FACTS disagree with whatever your agenda is shooting student.

[gunsmith]

Yeah, I can't imagine why they'd be concerned over the matter.  I mean, it'd been like a whole 24 hours since he SHOT HIS OWN CAR.

must be one of them dang foreign cars , I bet the car was asking for it

anyway, yeah by forcing people to handle loaded firearms it increases the chance of a ND.