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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2021, 10:37:52 AM »
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2021, 08:36:10 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/middleeast/suez-canal-ship-sand-intl-hnk/index.html

"The size of shipping has become so big that it's very hard for the Egyptian authorities to, basically, keep up with the growth," said CNN's senior international correspondent, Bill Wedeman, on Thursday. "The size of the Suez Canal in the last 50 years, the width of it, has basically doubled and clearly it's still not big enough."

I did not know that the Canal has been widened over the years and it may still need more work.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2021, 10:00:30 AM »
As originally built the Suez canal was TINY compared to what it is today -- no more than 300 feet wide, and considerably narrower in some places.

There were "sidings" built into the canal that would allow ships to literally pull over so other ships could pass.

Now it's nearly 1,000 feet wide in many places and can accommodate ships up to 250-feet wide, or wider than the original width of parts of the original canal.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2021, 10:06:51 AM »
Have the backed up ships tried incessantly laying on their horns? The guy behind me always seems to think doing so will get the 100 cars sitting still in front of me in a highway jam moving
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2021, 10:17:04 AM »
They need a drunk redneck to just plow into ship and push it out of the way.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2021, 11:24:00 AM »
I saw a comment yesterday:  You know you screwed up when your mistake can be seen from space.   =)

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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2021, 11:25:38 AM »
Have the backed up ships tried incessantly laying on their horns? The guy behind me always seems to think doing so will get the 100 cars sitting still in front of me in a highway jam moving
If only they had a navigation app that would suggest alternative routes and let them select toll routes versus non-toll routes. 
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2021, 11:57:08 AM »
I saw a comment yesterday:  You know you screwed up when your mistake can be seen from space.   =)

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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2021, 12:33:00 PM »
The thing feels very narrow on a CVN. With the overhang of the carriers you can often look straight down and see dirt. Favorite 1MC announcement was to order the cessation of hitting golf balls off the flight deck. Couple of officers had a piece of astroturfing, golf kit, and a solid firing solution on a guy riding a camel down the east bank.

Over the ten years I went through that thing lots of changes were noticeable. In the late 90s it was still very much a war footing. Most of the wrecked ships were gone but the equipment and dug in outposts on the West Bank were ready to go. Still lots of bridging equipment stacked the last time I went through but less militarized each time.

Post 9/11 was always more tense, a few trips through on the amphib and the ship would always drive humvees up to the flight deck to provide more guns available.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2021, 12:31:33 PM »
It moved: https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1415753/Suez-Canal-ship-moves-EverGiven-stuck-video-watch-evg

Stern partially free. That may allow them to tow it backwards out of the east bank.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2021, 03:33:55 PM »
Good stuff!

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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2021, 05:03:56 PM »
Interesting article. I skimmed over the fake news about the female captain (who isn't a captain but a second officer, and doesn't sail on the Ever Given) and scrolled down to the discussion of the problem. There's an image showing the extent of the backup -- looks like there's no room anywhere in the northern red Sea for another ship.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/the-meme-god-that-failed-suez-crash-was-not-caused-by-first-woman-captain-from-egypt/
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2021, 05:55:46 PM »
Was Diana Troy by chance at the helm?
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #38 on: March 27, 2021, 08:17:52 PM »
Sue's canal is still blocked?  She get a toy stuck up in there or what?
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2021, 07:57:37 AM »


HMS Howe in the Suez Canal in 1944 on her way to fight in the Pacific theater.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2021, 10:31:19 AM »
The revolver article is still weak. Not sure how merchant traffic does it but we always took aboard canal pilots for the transit. Same with harbors. The captain is still responsible for sure but there is a local expert advising the controls. They also dismiss the wind. A forty knot wind is not nothing, especially if intermittent. That ship has a huge sail area and you would have quite the correction inputted to keep it tracking straight.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2021, 02:09:08 PM »
Do those container ships have bow thrusters?  Or stern thrusters?
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2021, 09:17:18 PM »
Do those container ships have bow thrusters?  Or stern thrusters?

This ship has a bow thruster on each side.

They usually require tugs in port. Cruise ships use azipods and have excellent maneuverability but cargo ships typically just have the direct drive screw and some bow thrusters.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2021, 08:32:09 AM »
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2021, 08:46:38 AM »


HMS Howe in the Suez Canal in 1944 on her way to fight in the Pacific theater.
Was that after Italy surrendered? 
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #45 on: March 29, 2021, 09:02:01 AM »
The canal makes for some interesting photos at times

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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #46 on: March 29, 2021, 09:59:58 AM »
"Was that after Italy surrendered"

Yes. She went to the Pacific theater after escorting a number of surrendered Italian ships to Alexandria.

Howe provided naval gunfire support for US landings on Okinawa.
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2021, 11:00:58 AM »
Looks like Suez Canal traffic has resumed. The Ever Grounded was refloated and is being moved down the canal.

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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2021, 11:21:37 AM »
Looks like Suez Canal traffic has resumed. The Ever Grounded was refloated and is being moved down the canal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/suez-canal-ship-stuck-ever-given-successfully-refloated/
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Re: Suez Canal Blocked
« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2021, 04:39:43 PM »
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