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365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« on: December 11, 2013, 09:58:41 AM »
WOOHOO !!!!   ;/

After cancelling the plans of 4-5 million people, needing 7 million to sign up to make the math, and we were promised that it would insure an additional (depending on who was talking) 15-30 million Americans that then didn't have health insurance, the numbers are out for Obamacare signups (Again using their definition of "signed up" which doesn't mean paid, but put a plan in their "shopping cart".)

365,000 from 1 Oct through 30 Nov.  Even better are the 803,000 that signed up for Medicaid.  (On your dime).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/11/more-quarter-million-sign-obamacare-november/


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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 10:28:40 AM »
I thought I heard that 365K is the number who registers and got quotes, not necessarily those who signed up and paid.  Maybe that is old information. 
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 10:47:55 AM »
I thought I heard that 365K is the number who registers and got quotes, not necessarily those who signed up and paid.  Maybe that is old information. 

To say nothing of those who "signed up" but due to system failures didn't have the information transmitted to the insurer...
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 10:54:47 AM »
Even by fed.gov standards this has been just stunningly incompetent
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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 11:23:50 AM »
They knew six months before that it wasn't going to work, yet they supposedly patched it up just fine in a few weeks  ???
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 11:52:31 AM »
They don't want it to work! They want SINGLE PAYER!!!
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 11:58:05 AM »
They don't want it to work! They want SINGLE PAYER!!!

This.  The true believers I know are already calling for single payer. 

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 12:28:24 PM »
This.  The true believers I know are already calling for single payer. 

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Because that will work soooooo much better then this  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 01:47:36 PM »
Interesting article about healthcare.gov

http://akamai.infoworld.com/d/data-center/healthcaregov-the-infrastructure-fix-in-232295?source=IFWNLE__2013-12-09

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I'm guessing the code was workable for the most part, and the infrastructure was woefully underspec'd and underbuilt. According to an HHS blog post and a HealthCare.gov progress report, a number of software and hardware fixes were put into place to make this happen. Most striking about this data are the declarations that they "installed dedicated hardware" for the registration database that led to a threefold improvement in speed. The agency also deployed 12 database servers and new storage for the core database, along with a new firewall for a 500 percent performance increase. - See more at: http://akamai.infoworld.com/d/data-center/healthcaregov-the-infrastructure-fix-in-232295?source=IFWNLE__2013-12-09#sthash.xxcUAKhY.dpuf
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 01:53:02 PM »
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the code was workable for the most part

Yeah, that's a great standard for something that's handling personal financial and banking information  ;/


I'm sure the FAA would love that  :lol:
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 01:53:09 PM »
I found a network diagram of the infrastructure behind obamacare website...

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 02:00:06 PM »
I found a network diagram of the infrastructure behind obamacare website...



Sounds about right.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 02:01:13 PM »
I'll have you know I created that masterpiece just for this thread.
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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
They don't want it to work! They want SINGLE PAYER!!!
This.

Doggoneit we tried, but see, SEE! This private insurance stuff just doesn't work! Look at the costs! We needs single payer!!!
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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2013, 04:57:20 PM »
Saw this today on Allahpundt:

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Three huge caveats to the 365,000 figure. One: As Phil Klein notes in the excerpt, by HHS’s own admission, some of them are duplicates. And the fact that they felt obliged to admit that in a report that they’re desperately trying to spin as good news suggests that “some” isn’t an insignificant number. Two: As you hopefully already understand, “sign-ups” aren’t the same as “enrollments.” HHS’s original targets for O-Care were based on the assumption that people would be fully enrolled with their new insurers and ready to go with coverage on January 1. But because they’re desperate for positive publicity, they tweaked that metric so that anyone who’s tried to sign up and gotten as far as choosing a plan, even if they haven’t actually purchased it yet, counts in terms of them hitting their target. The actual number of people who’ve enrolled, not just “signed up,” is a well-kept secret. Three: As you also know by now, even if you’ve pulled the trigger on a plan and enrolled with an insurance company, your enrollment isn’t valid until you’ve paid your first month of premiums.

So 6 then?

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Re: 365,000 down 7-27 million more to go.
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 12:21:53 AM »
This.  The true believers I know are already calling for single payer. 

You want to know what's sad?  I'd lovingly take single payer if I could be convinced that it'd drop our healthcare costs to something approaching the median of countries that have them.

Why?  The federal government could pay for well over 90% of the nation's healthcare on current spending, with minor contributions from the pools states already spend as well.