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Type 03 FFL response time
« on: April 29, 2013, 05:42:22 PM »
Right at one month


I expected more ...

Anyways. Here it goes again!
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 05:56:23 PM »
You got your FFL?

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 07:00:16 PM »
I think he means he became a cruffler (C&R FFL)
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 07:02:38 PM »
Yep, for the second time

I miss mosin prices circa 2003
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 08:32:59 PM »
I'm on my 2nd renewal as well (good till 2015).  I've only purchased a couple guns via my C&R (both S&W revolvers), but have used the heck out of it to get discounts at Midway and Brownells.  That said, I'm not sure I'll renew.  I haven't purchased much from either site in a while and the "discounts" are laughable at times.  I'm not sure I'll offset the license fee next time around.

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 09:02:42 PM »
I let mine lapse. Was totally worth it when Nagant revolvers were a dime a dozen and rifles were 50 bucks

We shall see

Soon, some very interesting stuff will be old enough to be c&r
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 09:10:00 PM »
I let mine lapse. Was totally worth it when Nagant revolvers were a dime a dozen and rifles were 50 bucks

We shall see

Soon, some very interesting stuff will be old enough to be c&r

Just means our betters will soon be legislating changes to C&R rules.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 09:19:27 PM »
I let mine lapse. Was totally worth it when Nagant revolvers were a dime a dozen and rifles were 50 bucks

We shall see

Soon, some very interesting stuff will be old enough to be c&r
There's some good stuff on C&R now (S&W revolvers, some Ruger revolvers, 1911s, Browning HighPowers, etc).

Just means our betters will soon be legislating changes to C&R rules.
They haven't changed it yet.  There are some pretty modern guns on the list already.  Can't get a Glock or a Sig, but there are plenty other good guns. 

50 years ago is 1963.  There are a lot of guns made in the late 50s to early 60s that are almost identical to what is made today.

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 09:26:25 PM »
I've bought a few guns with mine, but really not that many.  Nagant revolver, CZ-82, stuff like that.   Biggest benefit is the discount at grafs.com.  I really wish they would relax the postal code just a little to allow licensed collectors to mail C&R eligible guns.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 09:55:19 PM »
I'm batting .000 on getting folks to send me stuff that's verifiably over 50 years old on my C&R, if it's in any way shape or form, "not C&R stuff" in their minds. And when mine expired, there was nothing left but the Mosin's, I didn't need five more, so I let it run out.

Seems to me that if it isn't WWI/WWII surplus, or something the big mail/internet order places are all selling as C&R, non-licensees and many/most 01's just... won't... do... it...

Might be useful to give folks the warm fuzzies if you come across something cool at a yard or estate sale, to have some sort of "official license", but that's a total shot in the dark.

I'm now more about trying to collect whatever neat stuff is the next "HS2000", i.e. the XD, before it was the XD, and SA put their stamp on it, and raised the price by $2-300. Or stuff like my measly $299 Draco AK pistol, which is now $800 unobtanium. Or things like the Wiselite semi-auto Sterling re-weld, that I knew would dry up once the Sterling parts kits were exhausted.


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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2013, 07:54:32 AM »
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Right at one month
Nice.
Now I'm thinking that I should apply again if the wait is that short. Let mine lapse in 2006 or so.
I still want a PU sniper or two.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2013, 10:16:59 AM »
My last mosin Was a fantastic shooter, and I regret selling it

Any tips on finding really great shooter? Should I just plunk down the cash for a sniper?
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 11:20:35 AM »
50 years ago is 1963.  There are a lot of guns made in the late 50s to early 60s that are almost identical to what is made today.

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Yup...like colt AR-15 (started sales in 1963 IIRC :)

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 01:29:51 PM »
good luck finding one from pre1970.  there just weren't that many made compared to today.

what is the cost for a c&r license, and how long is it good for?
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013, 01:45:16 PM »
IIRC, it's about $35 and is good for 3 years.

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2013, 09:33:49 PM »
From what I gather , buying a crate of mosins, keeping the good ones, and selling the rest is legit


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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2013, 10:04:04 PM »
That might be a bit obvious, but buying 2-3 and only keeping one is legit as you're "enhancing your collection", the whole purpose of the Type 03 FFL.

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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2013, 12:08:01 AM »
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From what I gather , buying a crate of mosins, keeping the good ones, and selling the rest is legit

Technically, it's legit. Maintaining Cruffler appearances, however...

When it finally arrives, your C&R paperwork will warn you that your FFL is expressly not "to engage in the business".

IOW, you buy and sell for the sake of your collection based on the historical significance of the pieces.

To date they've never put a specific limit on the number of toys you can move into and out of your collection, nor on the dollar figures from the sales thereof.

They're warning you not to move guns for profit, or becoming a de-facto retail distributor on a collector's Type 03 FFL. 

Likewise, I actually got into a bit of trouble trying to buy a stripped 98 Mauser receiver (Gewehr98) under a C&R FFL.  If you read the rules very carefully, the receivers themselves are not considered the historical item.   :O



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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2013, 04:10:12 AM »
I ask because a few places are selling them by the crate. I figure if I'm selling the ones I don't want at precisely my cost, I should be good. Buying a crate seems to me to be the best possible method of getting a real nice one
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2013, 12:30:47 PM »
Understood, but they ALL go into your bound book, even if you don't plan on keeping them.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2013, 12:44:43 PM »
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I ask because a few places are selling them by the crate. I figure if I'm selling the ones I don't want at precisely my cost, I should be good. Buying a crate seems to me to be the best possible method of getting a real nice one
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I always wanted to buy one of those crates and put a glass top on it for a coffee table in the man  room.
I seriously considered it when they were selling Yugo SKSs by the crate, but I bought a M41B instead.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2013, 12:49:55 PM »
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Any tips on finding really great shooter? Should I just plunk down the cash for a sniper?

All of the 91/30s that I have shoot respectably well with surplus ammo- can't complain. My eyes aren't good enough anymore to bother with trying handloads to get more accuracy oput of them.
I have a M-38 that is a poor shooter, and a Romanian M44 that are just plain shot out.
Speaking of which, I looked at a Chinese Type-53 Mosin recently at a local shop. The outside looks horrible- rusted metal and a stock that looks darn near dry-rotted. The bore was shinier and brighter than I've ever seen on a used Mosin however.
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2013, 12:53:08 PM »
Where can you find crates of them for sale?
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Re: Type 03 FFL response time
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2013, 01:36:40 PM »
Understood, but they ALL go into your bound book, even if you don't plan on keeping them.

Yeah, i knew that much.

I might do it
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