Post by: Leatherneck on September 11, 2007, 04:34:32 AM
The world shifted on its axis that day, and life in America changed forever.
NEVER FORGET.
TC
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on September 11, 2007, 04:35:57 AM
Post by: 280plus on September 11, 2007, 05:01:09 AM
....bows head for a moment of silence.....
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 11, 2007, 05:04:41 AM
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NEVER FORGET.
I'm sorry to say it, but America forgot a long time ago. We've done precisely nothing about Islamic terrorist savagry.
Post by: Leatherneck on September 11, 2007, 05:27:39 AM
TC
Post by: Manedwolf on September 11, 2007, 05:31:51 AM
We're still killin 'em, SW. Give it time...
TC
TC
I just wish this one was dead six years ago. Graphically.
Also, while some have not forgotten, others have revised.
Here's the plaque in front of the WTC girders on display at the NJ Liberty Science Museum.
Events. Not attack. So is Pearl Harbor an "incident" now?
Love the choice of words. Can't offend anyone!
Post by: 280plus on September 11, 2007, 06:17:34 AM
Post by: Thor on September 11, 2007, 06:32:22 AM
Post by: Harold Tuttle on September 11, 2007, 06:54:14 AM
http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0209/st_pauls/online_extra.html
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 11, 2007, 07:33:54 AM
Post by: Leatherneck on September 11, 2007, 07:37:01 AM
TC
Post by: 280plus on September 11, 2007, 08:13:04 AM
Post by: Euclidean on September 11, 2007, 08:55:10 AM
My younger siblings were still schoolchildren when the attack happened. My sister watched it live on television. I was actually commuting when it happened, and a voice came on the radio and all the man said was "Something has happened in New York, we'll get back to you as we get more information."
I felt sick.
I went to class, with the most hard ass professor on campus as our lecturer, the one who held above all that his class was more important to you than family, health or life itself, and we ended class 18 minutes early, the only time that's ever happened. No one in the room knew, but it was a silent gathering.
That's when I noticed, seeing the throngs of humanity milling about, that something was wrong. I tried to find a television, and it didn't take long.
Pushing past scores of people, I saw it for the first time. The guy beside me was eating the remains of seven chicken nuggets in a foil wrapper with a honey mustard dipping sauce. He had black hair and was wearing dark jeans and a black and white checkered button up shirt.
I could describe just as vividly the floor, ceiling, and plants in the foyer, and the other people watching with me. It was a Sony brand television. But most clearly of all, I remember seeing the smoking wreckage on the screen.
It's like it happened yesterday. That six years have passed is unbelievable.
What am I doing today in commemoration?
Some years ago those siblings I mentioned speculated that 9/11 would become a national day of mourning, when schools would shut down and people would stay home all day.
My father said no, on every September 11th, we're going to do what we would have done anyway, only with more resolve, vigor, and purpose than ever before. It is for that reason that the efforts of those hijackers will mean nothing other than a group of fanatics murdered countless people. That is the ultimate defiance, and retaliation. You can destroy a building, but you cannot dent the steel beams of American resolve. We will laugh at your pathetic and cowardly attack, scorch you from the face of the earth, and return with an even bigger building.
I say we rebuild the WTC exactly as it was, only 1 floor taller, just out of spite.
No, never forget. Business as usual today.
Post by: Leatherneck on September 11, 2007, 02:30:46 PM
TC
Post by: SomeKid on September 11, 2007, 02:48:36 PM
Edited to be more PC. Fistful, thanks for the PMs. I just wanted to think it over a bit before I changed it.
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 11, 2007, 04:52:39 PM
I don't mourn the dead, I simply hope every day for justice. I wish we could slaughter the muslim slime faster.
You know the guy who hosts this site for us is Muslim, right?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 11, 2007, 05:01:04 PM
Post by: LadySmith on September 11, 2007, 06:01:31 PM
Well, count me among the mental. It didn't take long for that talk show host, and others like him, to fall back asleep. I know of feisty old widows who have neither forgotten or forgiven Pearl Harbor, let alone 9/11.
I know I tend to hold grudges. But dammit, some grudges are worth holding.
My thoughts and heartfelt appreciation go out to those at home & abroad doing what needs to be done.
Post by: grampster on September 11, 2007, 06:34:13 PM
What does make me feel good are the grand and wonderful young people who have stepped forward along with the grizzled lifer troops and guardsmen who have stood tall and fierce for me and mine. OOORRAH!
To those brother and sister Americans who embarrass themselves, embarrass our country, say and do despicable things in the name of "freedom of speech" that put our warriors and our citizens in harms way for reasons that are foolhardy, selfish, or downright ignorant, supported and furthered by media types who use their bully pulpit to further a know nothing political point of view, I take advantage of my freedom of speech by saying, KISS MY ass.
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 11, 2007, 06:47:46 PM
What struck me first was the paper's description of the 9/11 attack: the worst terrorist attack on US soil in history.
Sorry, but the Journal Sentinel got it wrong. This was the worst attack on US soil of any kind in history.
But now it's neatly put behind us. It's just another part of the war against terrorism, that war that everyone opposes.
Don't worry, it won't happen again.
Post by: Paddy on September 11, 2007, 06:58:33 PM
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But now it's neatly put behind us. It's just another part of the war against terrorism, that war that everyone opposes.
Don't worry, it won't happen again.
Don't worry, it won't happen again.
It will certainly happen again. High government officials have told us so. And to assure that recurrence, those same high government officials have failed to take the most rudimentary steps to prevent another attack. They've failed to deport foreign nationals here illegally. They've failed to provide even adequate border security. They've failed to act militarily against two prime suspects-Saudi Arabia and Iran-instead, they choose to dick around in Iraq under the 'democratization' pretense.
Maybe the next administration will take the bull by the horns. Maybe not.
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 11, 2007, 07:05:34 PM
We have crippled them enough and have them occupied enough in Afghanistan and Iraq that a large scale attack is not going to be possible.
There may be a few instances of "minor" bombings like we have seen in Europe but the intell community WILL NOT let something like 9/11 happen again. The information that was learned after going back and reviewing what went wrong has been instrumental in stopping the attacks that have been stopped since.
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 11, 2007, 07:19:01 PM
That's not what I said. I believe that we'll see more attacks, and that they may be on a larger scale. Or maybe not. We can only hope and pray.
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 11, 2007, 07:28:39 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 11, 2007, 07:29:25 PM
Post by: Bogie on September 11, 2007, 07:42:52 PM
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I am going to agree with Monkeyleg and say that it won't happen again on that scale.
We have crippled them enough and have them occupied enough in Afghanistan and Iraq that a large scale attack is not going to be possible.
We have crippled them enough and have them occupied enough in Afghanistan and Iraq that a large scale attack is not going to be possible.
Give me 20 committed martyrs, and I can bring a large city to its knees. Give me a hundred, and I could shut down this country's business, and crash the stock market 5,000 points...
They'll do something - we just haven't seen it yet. They didn't buy or build a cruise missile - they stole four.
Post by: Monkeyleg on September 11, 2007, 07:46:22 PM
Can we just please just say that it happened, and that we pray for the families of those who died, and hope that we never see such a tragedy again?
9/11/2001 was a day to be remembered, just as was 12/07/1941 and other historic dates. But we shouldn't remember them as dates, but rather turning points in our country's history. And we should also remember those who died.
"Give me 20 committed martyrs, and I can bring a large city to its knees. Give me a hundred, and I could shut down this country's business, and crash the stock market 5,000 points...
They'll do something - we just haven't seen it yet. They didn't buy or build a cruise missile - they stole four."
That sort of talk could land you at Gitmo.
Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 11, 2007, 07:51:31 PM
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 11, 2007, 07:59:27 PM
I wish we could slaughter the terrorists faster.
Word, yo.
Post by: jeepmor on September 11, 2007, 11:37:21 PM
http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/dwap.html?Category_Code=poli
this shirt says it all.
And everyone keeps arguing there is no "bigger plan" or "conspiracy" going on when we have the best trained and equipped military force in the world and we can't even beat a bunch of low tech guerilla fighters. As I always blather, "guerillas always win." And as long as the current batch of politicos are in charge, no progress will come of it.
It's going to come down to another attack, martial law will ensue, then the real plans will become evident. Unfortunately, innocents will be lost yet again to further yet another agenda like the Patriot Act.
I don't mean this as disrespect to any of the people lost that day or their loved ones, for they have been used as tools to launch a plan. It makes me quite sad. As in Pearl Harbor, radar operators saw them coming, their orders were to do nothing. The nukes recently flying across the country "unnoticed" is quite disturbing. Never happened in the US before, protocols on nukes are airtight...and this one "slipped" by. Hmm, I smell BS.
I'll reiterate, I mean no disrespect to anyone lost or their loved ones. But I do strongly believe that an event like this does not happen through a black comedy of errors that were allowed to occur. Looking at all the liberties that were ransacked, no bid contracts granted, and the agenda that immediately ensued has me seriously doubting that our government's hands are clean in this thing.
http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/papr.html?Category_Code=poli
http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/camr.html?Category_Code=poli
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 12, 2007, 01:58:04 AM
Can we please not turn this into a Bush/Cheney/Hillary/Obama/Democrat/Republican/Iraq/Afghanistan/Homeland Security/Patriot Act thread?
Well, that went over like a lead balloon.
Post by: roo_ster on September 12, 2007, 04:47:07 AM
If there was actual comittment, we'd be done over there by now. This has outlasted WWII.
The fast food generation speaks (or, writes).This has been going on since the seventh century. It will last past Christmas, sho 'nuff.
We are also crippled by the fifth columnists here in the West. Fighting with one hand behind our backs and a knife in the very same back.
Post by: Paddy on September 12, 2007, 05:57:45 AM
A blind man who worked in the North Tower spoke at our church awhile back, and told the story of his escape down 78 floors that morning:
Blind man inspires with 9/11 tale
Web-posted Mar 18, 2004
By DAVE GROVES
Of The Daily Oakland Press
Michael Hingson of Novato, Calif., addresses the crowd as his guide dog, Roselle, relaxes at the Highland Lakes Campus of Oakland Community College in Waterford Township. Hingson, who is blind, survived the 9/11 attacks with the aid of Roselle. -The Daily Oakland Press / JOSE JUAREZ
At 8:45 a.m. Sept. 11, 2001, Michael Hingson was on the 78th floor of Tower One in the World Trade Center.
When a hijacked jetliner crashed into the building, he and a colleague named David heard a muffled thud and a subsequent explosion. They felt the tower begin to lean and David described the smoke, rubble and burning debris he saw falling outside.
In the moments that followed, Hingson realized he would have to rely on David, his seeing-eye dog, Roselle, and his own composure to descend 1,463 steps to escape the building.
Early on in what would become an hourlong effort to find daylight, Hingson and his companions allowed people assisting burn victims to pass them in the stairwell.
The group eventually approached the lower floors and made room for firefighters in full gear to pass.
"So we continued going down the stairs while they continued going up them - each one, nearly to the person, stopping to check if we were OK and to get a kiss from Roselle," Hingson told a gathering at the Highland Lakes Campus of Oakland Community College on Wednesday.
"That was the last unconditional love those people ever got."
Among the few dozen people in the audience, many wiped tears from their eyes.
The emotion-filled silence was among several Hingson delivered during a recounting of his surviving the eventful day.
Blind since birth, Hingson now tours the country sharing his story and how the experience reinforced his long-held beliefs in the value of trust, teamwork and open-mindedness toward change.
Offering thoughts some audience members described as inspirational, Hingson said the devastation and horror he witnessed did not strip him of his faith in humanity.
"I believe anyone who can do something like this is no longer a human being," he said. "I believe there is enough of us in the world (who deplore it) and, sooner or later, we're going to say enough is enough."
Hingson's message resonated with Brighton resident Kathy Kedzierski.
"His entire outlook on life - his calmness and his perspective on dealing with change - it seemed to be a big part of the reason he survived that day."
Highland Lakes Campus President Gordon May said the story offers all who hear it a new outlook on the aftermath of the attacks.
"I think the message you've had for us is an inspiring message," May said. "I think it's a healing message."
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/031804/loc_20040318072.shtml
Post by: Sergeant Bob on September 12, 2007, 06:13:12 AM
And everyone keeps arguing there is no "bigger plan" or "conspiracy" "conspiracy" "conspiracy" "conspiracy" "conspiracy" "conspiracy" going on
It's going to come down to another attack, martial law will ensue, then the real plans will become evident. Unfortunately, innocents will be lost yet again to further yet another agenda like the Patriot Act.
As in Pearl Harbor, radar operators saw them coming, their orders were to do nothing. The nukes recently flying across the country "unnoticed" is quite disturbing. Never happened in the US before, protocols on nukes are airtight...and this one "slipped" by. Hmm, I smell BS.
But I do strongly believe that an event like this does not happen through a black comedy of errors that were allowed to occur. Looking at all the liberties that were ransacked, no bid contracts granted, and the agenda that immediately ensued has me seriously doubting that our government's hands are clean in this thing.
http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/papr.html?Category_Code=poli
http://www.t-shirthumor.com/Merchant2/products/camr.html?Category_Code=poli
I respectfully and POLITELY disagree with you.
(This is a much better way of POLITELY saying what you meant to say. The key word here is POLITE.)
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Post by: RadioFreeSeaLab on September 12, 2007, 10:16:10 AM
If there was actual comittment, we'd be done over there by now. This has outlasted WWII.
The fast food generation speaks (or, writes).This has been going on since the seventh century. It will last past Christmas, sho 'nuff.
We are also crippled by the fifth columnists here in the West. Fighting with one hand behind our backs and a knife in the very same back.
You're right, it's been going on since the seventh century. I don't think we'll be able to fix it. No fault of our Military, I know you guys are doing your best. But you can't fix something like this. They have to want to fix themselves, and that ain't happening.