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Title: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 17, 2018, 10:33:48 PM
Youtube video lauding the construction of a $5,000, 2,000 pound tiny house.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokfI0vn9ZM

Look closely at 1:06 in the video, showing the owner installing siding. The boards aren't even lapped. They're not even tightly butted. In other words, they're open to weather. This can ONLY work in a climate that doesn't see precipitation.

But this guy is being presented as the guru of tiny house design and construction. Scary.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Andiron on November 17, 2018, 10:34:35 PM
Stupid is as stupid does.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: TommyGunn on November 17, 2018, 11:08:53 PM
Hasn't anyone ever heard of VENTILATION??????  [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: bedlamite on November 17, 2018, 11:27:42 PM
Look closely at 1:06 in the video, showing the owner installing siding. The boards aren't even lapped. They're not even tightly butted. In other words, they're open to weather. This can ONLY work in a climate that doesn't see precipitation.

Or temp swings. Expansion from temp and moisture would rip that apart.

But this guy is being presented as the guru of tiny house design and construction. Scary.

The few people I've talked to that are fond of tiny houses are pretty much flakes.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 17, 2018, 11:54:57 PM
This one isn't really even a "house." There is no bathroom, not even a "toilet" room, and no kitchen, eating, or cooking area. It's basically a heavy, rigid tent on wheels. What a travesty.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Fly320s on November 18, 2018, 09:58:47 AM
That builder is flakey.  Just listen to his voice and watch his face.  He sort of drifts off to la-la-land a few times.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Boomhauer on November 18, 2018, 10:07:33 AM
I think tiny houses are interesting ideas but if you listen to the podcasts and watch the shows the buildiers/owners are typically idiots with no clue about what they are doing but they see a bunch of *expletive deleted*it on Pinterest and focus on cramming that in the house. Somewhere on my phone way back in the picture gallery I have a picture of a shitty one built on a cheap trailer being towed by a FWD car. The car and trailer height aren’t matched at all and the trailer is leaning forward hitch almost hitting the ground to match the hitch height of the trailer

Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Firethorn on November 18, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
That builder is flakey.  Just listen to his voice and watch his face.  He sort of drifts off to la-la-land a few times.

Listen to the words, he's interested in tiny homes because he's ended up homeless a few times.  People aren't likely to take his crappy tiny home away from him, so it provides security that way.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: 230RN on November 19, 2018, 01:43:25 AM
Shouldn't there be a half-moon cut into the door?

Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Firethorn on November 19, 2018, 05:46:07 AM
Shouldn't there be a half-moon cut into the door?

Would help with ventilation.  But realistically that'd be next door.  I've lived in places plenty of times without internal bathrooms.

Then have a grill or something a dozen feet or so past the house.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 19, 2018, 12:10:47 PM
Hasn't anyone ever heard of VENTILATION??????  [tinfoil]

Ventilation is a YUUUGE problem with new houses, not just "tiny" houses. The building and energy codes have become so strict on "infiltration" (air leaks when the wind blows) that new houses are creating health problems due to pollutants collecting in the house, and moisture vapor being trapped inside and not dissipating. It's just another unforeseen effect of the climate change hysteria that has caused the .gov to mandate less energy consumption in buildings.

To get a certificate of occupancy on a new house today, the builder has to bring in a testing company to install a fan in the front door opening and run the fan to create a negative pressure (vacuum) in the house and then measure how much air can leak in. If the leakage exceeds some ridiculously low standard, the test fails and the builder has to go around and seal a bunch of stuff, then retest.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: MillCreek on November 19, 2018, 01:36:47 PM
^^^I remember watching this being done to our house about two weeks before we occupied it.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: MechAg94 on November 19, 2018, 02:50:10 PM
Ventilation is a YUUUGE problem with new houses, not just "tiny" houses. The building and energy codes have become so strict on "infiltration" (air leaks when the wind blows) that new houses are creating health problems due to pollutants collecting in the house, and moisture vapor being trapped inside and not dissipating. It's just another unforeseen effect of the climate change hysteria that has caused the .gov to mandate less energy consumption in buildings.

To get a certificate of occupancy on a new house today, the builder has to bring in a testing company to install a fan in the front door opening and run the fan to create a negative pressure (vacuum) in the house and then measure how much air can leak in. If the leakage exceeds some ridiculously low standard, the test fails and the builder has to go around and seal a bunch of stuff, then retest.
So at what point will lighting candles in the house use up all the available oxygen so everyone dies? 
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 19, 2018, 04:39:18 PM
So at what point will lighting candles in the house use up all the available oxygen so everyone dies? 

We are actually pretty close to that point already.

Seriously.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: charby on November 19, 2018, 04:48:40 PM
We are actually pretty close to that point already.

Seriously.

My parents have an 8 year old townhouse, they have a air exchanger.
Title: Re: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 19, 2018, 07:19:53 PM
My parents have an 8 year old townhouse, they have a air exchanger.

IMHO, that's effectively mandatory in a new house.

Of course, it has to be an energy-efficient, air-to-air heat exchanger. You can't just open a window and let all that cold (or hot) air in.
Title: Tiny House Idiocy
Post by: Boomhauer on November 19, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
We are actually pretty close to that point already.

Seriously.

It is very easy to get to a backdraft situation in these new homes when fighting fires in them due to the tightness of them. The fire quickly runs out of oxygen and smolders until the door is opened. You have to have good ventilation coordination with the truck crew when making entry into rooms and use a lot of caution


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