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Title: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: just Warren on July 01, 2017, 11:41:18 PM
http://bigleaguepolitics.com/trumps-cheese-maze-strategy/


Man, I really don't want to like Trump but if this article is true then he may well be the greatest president in the history of the US and one of the best heads-of-state of all-time. And how can you not like that?

I mean we're here getting to watch it, it's not something we're reading in a history book or watching a movie of.

He very well could destroy the progressive project and we will be the first people to benefit! And we'll be able to tell our grandkids about it. Of course some of you have grandkids already but be sure to mention it anyway.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: 230RN on July 02, 2017, 01:26:30 AM
Heh-heh-heh-hehhhhh...

Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Scout26 on July 02, 2017, 04:08:13 AM
I've thought that for a while.  He uses his twitter account to keep the left, press, and even Congress, looking the wrong way while he gets a lot donee. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Viking on July 02, 2017, 04:19:56 AM
I've thought that for a while.  He uses his twitter account to keep the left, press, and even Congress, looking the wrong way while he gets a lot donee. 
I've seen this for a while. I admit that I had some serious concerns about Trump's candidacy early on, thinking he was false opposition. That obviously turned out to be incorrect. Then I began to notice his brilliance in deceiving the mainstream media, and I lol'd, thinking it was mostly for sh!ts and giggles, but I had not considered it as an anti-Alinskyist tactic. Well played, Mr President. Well played.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 02, 2017, 11:59:58 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881503147168071680
Sort of like Trump's tweet from earlier today?   =D  


It does make some sense.  If you were planning on getting an agenda done, you would have to account for the MSM/Democrats trying to manipulate public opinion and the media narrative to undermine your efforts.  They did it to W. Bush constantly and most of the time he acted like he was blindsided every time.  It sounds like Trump has some good sense himself and he hired people who were also very good.  

I wonder what his administration will be able to do when he actually gets all his appointments approved. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on July 03, 2017, 02:23:03 AM
http://bigleaguepolitics.com/trumps-cheese-maze-strategy/


Man, I really don't want to like Trump but if this article is true then he may well be the greatest president in the history of the US and one of the best heads-of-state of all-time. And how can you not like that?

I mean we're here getting to watch it, it's not something we're reading in a history book or watching a movie of.

He very well could destroy the progressive project and we will be the first people to benefit! And we'll be able to tell our grandkids about it. Of course some of you have grandkids already but be sure to mention it anyway.

You know.....  I kinda was starting to wonder about this...  The absolute fanatical obsession with the left about Trump's tweets and just random crap, has really made me wonder at times....  What's the misdirection.  What's he doing with his left hand while he's got the media distracted with his right.  Because honestly, that's a brilliant strategy.  Get everyone so freaking wound up about the latest "scandal" that they are fixated on the obvious and not looking at the real work being done.   If that's what's happening, then Trump and his advisers are absolutely brilliant.   

The other possibility is that they're just getting blindly lucky with all of this.  But it feels too orchestrated, too structured to be luck. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: 230RN on July 03, 2017, 03:13:03 AM
Heh.  The Cheese-Whiz President.  But I'm wondering if it should be publicized this much.

Loose lips sink ships....  ???
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: bedlamite on July 03, 2017, 10:05:55 AM
Heh.  The Cheese-Whiz President.  But I'm wondering if it should be publicized this much.

Loose lips sink ships....  ???

I've seen the same theory over on DU, and it's summarily dismissed because he's obviously too stupid to do that.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RocketMan on July 03, 2017, 10:22:55 AM
You know.....  I kinda was starting to wonder about this...  The absolute fanatical obsession with the left about Trump's tweets and just random crap, has really made me wonder at times....  What's the misdirection.  What's he doing with his left hand while he's got the media distracted with his right.  Because honestly, that's a brilliant strategy.  Get everyone so freaking wound up about the latest "scandal" that they are fixated on the obvious and not looking at the real work being done.   If that's what's happening, then Trump and his advisers are absolutely brilliant.   

The other possibility is that they're just getting blindly lucky with all of this.  But it feels too orchestrated, too structured to be luck.

Unfortunately, that's the simplest explanation.  Occam's Razor.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 03, 2017, 10:25:38 AM
If it is luck, it won't last.  Some in the media will start to get ahead of the misdirection at some point.  However, he is just playing to the media's arrogance.  They can't admit they are being beaten. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RocketMan on July 03, 2017, 10:31:32 AM
If it is luck, it won't last.  Some in the media will start to get ahead of the misdirection at some point. However, he is just playing to the media's arrogance.  They can't admit they are being beaten.

This he is doing quite well.  I do admire the guy for his ability to slap them silly (in the figurative sense, of course).
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 03, 2017, 10:35:56 AM
This he is doing quite well.  I do admire the guy for his ability to slap them silly (in the figurative sense, of course).
And even if it isn't some grand master strategy, that alone is worth this and a second term.  A lot of people may not like him or how he does things, but he is getting the better of the media which is something conservatives have wanted to see in a Republican for many years. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: freakazoid on July 03, 2017, 10:58:59 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/881503147168071680
Sort of like Trump's tweet from earlier today?   =D  


It does make some sense.  If you were planning on getting an agenda done, you would have to account for the MSM/Democrats trying to manipulate public opinion and the media narrative to undermine your efforts.  They did it to W. Bush constantly and most of the time he acted like he was blindsided every time.  It sounds like Trump has some good sense himself and he hired people who were also very good.  

I wonder what his administration will be able to do when he actually gets all his appointments approved. 

That tweet, and the subsequent media freakout, was just awesome. They are freaking out over this video of him beating up CNN, which he has pretty much been doing metaphorically, and yet they defended Kathy Griffiths decapitation picture; their inability to see their hypocrisy is astounding.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: makattak on July 03, 2017, 11:06:54 AM
Unfortunately, that's the simplest explanation.  Occam's Razor.

It's not, though.

It requires him to have "gotten lucky" over a career of decades in a very cutthroat industry, BEFORE "getting lucky" and winning the Presidency (and all that led up to it as well).

Now it is possible that it is all instinctive for him and he's not logically laying out a long run strategy, but it's clearly not "luck," however, audentis Fortuna iuvat.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Unisaw on July 03, 2017, 11:36:12 AM
OODA loop: another way of looking at Trump's outrageous behavior is that he has always been ahead of the media's OODA loop.  Day after day, dating back to the beginning of his campaign, he has made the media react to him such that he has dominated the news of the day.  This, in turn, has forced Democrats to react to him.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RocketMan on July 03, 2017, 01:38:45 PM
It's not, though.

It requires him to have "gotten lucky" over a career of decades in a very cutthroat industry, BEFORE "getting lucky" and winning the Presidency (and all that led up to it as well).

Now it is possible that it is all instinctive for him and he's not logically laying out a long run strategy, but it's clearly not "luck," however, audentis Fortuna iuvat.

I agree that Trump's success as a businessman was not all a matter of luck, but consider he did go bankrupt a couple of times over the years.
Trump is operating in a completely different environment than what he made his bones in.  He is a skilled businessman that found himself thrust into a cutthroat political environment.  And business acumen does not necessarily equip a person to operate effectively in the political swamp inside the beltway.
He is reacting to political threats as a businessman, not a politician. One might argue that this is a good thing, and it could well be.  Perhaps he is actually operating inside the Left's OODA loop as Unisaw says.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Monkeyleg on July 03, 2017, 08:11:14 PM
I like Rush Limbaugh's analogy of Trump playing with a laser pointer, driving the cat crazy.

The media folk say, "he needs to talk about serious issues," but when he tries to do that, they ignore his news and launch into some new Trump conspiracy. They won''t cover his accomplishments.

So, what to do? Make fools of them by flipping the laser pointer all over the room, and watch the cats come up with crazy stories that make them look bad. Remember "covfefe"? I just about busted a gut watching media talking heads try to interpret his typo, wondering  if it was secret Russian code, or some other nefarious message.

Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: just Warren on July 03, 2017, 10:15:20 PM
Rex Tillerson is actually draining a swamp. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/29/how-rex-tillerson-destroying-state-department-215319)

Naturally the lifers at State don't appreciate it.

Hopefully this continues to happen and happens across all agencies.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Ben on July 03, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
Rex Tillerson is actually draining a swamp. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/29/how-rex-tillerson-destroying-state-department-215319)

Naturally the lifers at State don't appreciate it.

Hopefully this continues to happen and happens across all agencies.

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When Rex Tillerson was announced as secretary of state, there was a general feeling of excitement and relief in the department. After eight years of high-profile, jet-setting secretaries, the building was genuinely looking forward to having someone experienced in corporate management.

Yeah, I'm thinkin' the above quote might not be that accurate. Or maybe the so-called reporter just forgot all the outrage from "anonymous" state dept employees around the first of the year.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 03, 2017, 11:42:27 PM
I agree that Trump's success as a businessman was not all a matter of luck, but consider he did go bankrupt a couple of times over the years.

I don't think that's quite accurate. (But maybe it is.) Some of Trump's businesses have gone bankrupt, but has Donald Trump, the man, ever filed for personal bankruptcy? One of the Dem's criticisms of him during the campaign was that he "used the system" to short creditors by decalring bankruptcy. His response was spot on: "You wrote the rules, I just played by them."

It's a bad businessman who keeps pouring money into an enterprise that's not likely to recover profitability. If the rules allow you to cut the bait and go home with your pocket change intact, I think any good businessman would do that.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: zahc on July 03, 2017, 11:47:04 PM
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how do you manage multimillion-dollar programs with no people? Who do you send to international meetings and summits? Maybe, my former colleagues are discovering, you just can’t implement that program or show up to that meeting

I think they are starting to understand. It's taking a while, but they are catching on slowly.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 03, 2017, 11:52:59 PM
Rex Tillerson is actually draining a swamp. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/29/how-rex-tillerson-destroying-state-department-215319)

Naturally the lifers at State don't appreciate it.

Hopefully this continues to happen and happens across all agencies.

So Tillerson is "inexperienced"?

Yet this twit apparently was happy to work under Hillary Clinton, who has spent a lifetime doing ... nothing. When asked about her accomplishments as Secretary of State, her response was that she flew a lot of miles.
Title: Re: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: makattak on July 04, 2017, 07:53:16 AM
So Tillerson is "inexperienced"?

Yet this twit apparently was happy to work under Hillary Clinton, who has spent a lifetime doing ... nothing. When asked about her accomplishments as Secretary of State, her response was that she few a lot of miles.
Ooo! Ooo! Don't forget completely destabilized Libya after Khadaffi gave up pursuit of nuclear weapons!

That was a huge accomplishment.

(And it really angers me no one seems to care about that, beyond the murdering of our ambassador.)
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: TommyGunn on July 04, 2017, 11:25:16 AM
So Tillerson is "inexperienced"?

Yet this twit apparently was happy to work under Hillary Clinton, who has spent a lifetime doing ... nothing. When asked about her accomplishments as Secretary of State, her response was that she few a lot of miles.



"Few a lot of miles?"    ???   Was Hillary as cryptic?
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 04, 2017, 02:03:48 PM


"Few a lot of miles?"    ???   Was Hillary as cryptic?

Typo -- fixed.
Title: Re: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Viking on July 04, 2017, 02:30:59 PM
Ooo! Ooo! Don't forget completely destabilized Libya after Khadaffi gave up pursuit of nuclear weapons!

That was a huge accomplishment.

(And it really angers me no one seems to care about that, beyond the murdering of our ambassador.)
"We came, we saw, he died". Staying classy there.
Also, thanks for opening the floodgates for every welfare seeker from Africa to pass through Libya and attempt to get to Europe. Almost makes me wonder who was really the mastermind of toppling Khadaffi.
Title: Re: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 04, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
Ooo! Ooo! Don't forget completely destabilized Libya after Khadaffi gave up pursuit of nuclear weapons!

That was a huge accomplishment.

(And it really angers me no one seems to care about that, beyond the murdering of our ambassador.)
There was some disruption in Egypt also.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 04, 2017, 05:37:59 PM
Rex Tillerson is actually draining a swamp. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/29/how-rex-tillerson-destroying-state-department-215319)

Naturally the lifers at State don't appreciate it.

Hopefully this continues to happen and happens across all agencies.
Wow, I don't know if a negative article like this has ever made me feel better.  I love how toward the end he acts like gutting the State Dept bureaucracy is the same as destroying the country. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: just Warren on July 05, 2017, 12:31:41 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/882186896285282304

This is MAGAnificent. Naturally all the right people people went ape-poo over it. Exactly as intended.

I don't know how Twitter works so I hope that link up there stays current.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: just Warren on July 05, 2017, 01:31:49 AM
Trump to end Obama's college witch hunts. (https://thefederalist.com/2017/06/29/trump-administration-signals-end-campus-star-chambers/)
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RevDisk on July 05, 2017, 06:54:15 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

CNN found the guy who made that animated GIF and is threatening him if he releases anything else.

"The Reddit user who initially claimed credit for President Donald Trump's tweet that showed Trump tackling CNN issued an apology Tuesday for the video and other offensive content he posted -- one day after CNN identified the man behind the account and attempted to make contact with him."

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

They're not even trying to hide the fact that they are solely not exposing him because he cowered under their threats.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: makattak on July 05, 2017, 08:35:21 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

CNN found the guy who made that animated GIF and is threatening him if he releases anything else.

"The Reddit user who initially claimed credit for President Donald Trump's tweet that showed Trump tackling CNN issued an apology Tuesday for the video and other offensive content he posted -- one day after CNN identified the man behind the account and attempted to make contact with him."

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

They're not even trying to hide the fact that they are solely not exposing him because he cowered under their threats.

And CNN reporter, despite the threat being specifically in the article, claims CNN didn't threaten anyone:

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andrew kaczynski 🤔 ✔ @KFILE
CNN specifically choose not to reveal this guy's identity and to say we threatened anyone is a total lie.https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/882414409393491968 …
9:56 PM - 4 Jul 2017

Again, these people are incompetent, ignorant, and stupid. Let's add vile to that as well.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Scout26 on July 05, 2017, 08:54:37 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html

CNN found the guy who made that animated GIF and is threatening him if he releases anything else.

"The Reddit user who initially claimed credit for President Donald Trump's tweet that showed Trump tackling CNN issued an apology Tuesday for the video and other offensive content he posted -- one day after CNN identified the man behind the account and attempted to make contact with him."

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again. In addition, he said his statement could serve as an example to others not to do the same.

CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change."

They're not even trying to hide the fact that they are solely not exposing him because he cowered under their threats.

Rumour has it that HanA**holeSolo is a minor (15 yo), and that 4chan is about to go all Shia LaBouef, et al. on CNN..

[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 05, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
Rumour has it that HanA**holeSolo is a minor (15 yo), and that 4chan is about to go all Shia LaBouef, et al. on CNN..

[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
That did sound a bit like they were stirring up a hornet's nest by going after someone online.  That is going over the line of decent behavior. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Ben on July 05, 2017, 10:00:28 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politics/kfile-reddit-user-trump-tweet/index.html


They're not even trying to hide the fact that they are solely not exposing him because he cowered under their threats.

Yup. I could not believe this story when I read it. Even people who despise Trump are taking a sledge hammer to CNN.

I have to wonder if their entire staff was high when they came up with this. They are actually proud of their statement where they talk about him "profusely apologizing", making it sound like he got down on his knees offering blowjobs if only the great CNN would forgive him, when in actuality, their statement pretty much alludes to a threat by them scaring the crap out of some random Joe.

It's not just David and Goliath, It's David and malevolent Goliath. Which is one of the reasons the Internet is now full of memes making fun of CNN. Nobody likes a bully. Everyone hates a self-righteous bully.

This is how you get Trump.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 05, 2017, 10:17:05 AM
Yup. I could not believe this story when I read it. Even people who despise Trump are taking a sledge hammer to CNN.

I have to wonder if their entire staff was high when they came up with this. They are actually proud of their statement where they talk about him "profusely apologizing", making it sound like he got down on his knees offering blowjobs if only the great CNN would forgive him, when in actuality, their statement pretty much alludes to a threat by them scaring the crap out of some random Joe.

It's not just David and Goliath, It's David and malevolent Goliath. Which is one of the reasons the Internet is now full of memes making fun of CNN. Nobody likes a bully. Everyone hates a self-righteous bully.

This is how you get Trump.
Maybe someone can dig up all the stories I am sure CNN has done about bullying in the past.  Anti-bullying campaigns were in vogue recently. 
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 05, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Trump to end Obama's college witch hunts. (https://thefederalist.com/2017/06/29/trump-administration-signals-end-campus-star-chambers/)

The body of the article doesn't seem to align with the headline. Reading the article, it seems more like the Trump administration "may" reduce the pressure on universities to conduct witch hunts. There's still massive pressure from the SJWs of the world, so what's really needed is for the administration to issue new regulations that enforce the principle that an accused is innocent unless proven to be guilty.

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In January, a panel of college presidents said they would uphold the Obama-era guidance even if Trump’s OCR overturned it. States such as California, Mississippi, and others are working on bills to codify into law Obama’s harmful policies. It will take a while before society remembers that due process is a constitutional right and necessary to seeking justice, rather than an impediment.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: KD5NRH on July 06, 2017, 12:35:22 AM
Rumour has it that HanA**holeSolo is a minor (15 yo), and that 4chan is about to go all Shia LaBouef, et al. on CNN..

If not, heck, I bet he could arrange some personal protection from other Trump supporters, post his own ID and dare CNN to come up with anything else to threaten him with.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RevDisk on July 06, 2017, 09:06:56 AM
Yup. I could not believe this story when I read it. Even people who despise Trump are taking a sledge hammer to CNN.

I have to wonder if their entire staff was high when they came up with this. They are actually proud of their statement where they talk about him "profusely apologizing", making it sound like he got down on his knees offering blowjobs if only the great CNN would forgive him, when in actuality, their statement pretty much alludes to a threat by them scaring the crap out of some random Joe.

It's not just David and Goliath, It's David and malevolent Goliath. Which is one of the reasons the Internet is now full of memes making fun of CNN. Nobody likes a bully. Everyone hates a self-righteous bully.

This is how you get Trump.

Their current position is that it was added by some unknown editor or whatnot. And obviously is not meant to be taken as a threat. Which may be true. But the way it is written and the context of the article, sure as hell makes it sound like a threat.

Especially when CNN spent so much time making it clear they're very pleased with the heretic recanting of his heresy and promising to never never make fun of them ever again.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 06, 2017, 11:14:44 AM
Makes me wish I had the talent and know-how to make derogatory CNN memes and videos. I'd be churning them out by the dozen.
Come get some CNN.
 [ar15]
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: CypherNinja on July 06, 2017, 10:40:28 PM
Makes me wish I had the talent and know-how to make derogatory CNN memes and videos. I'd be churning them out by the dozen.
Come get some CNN.
 [ar15]

I did my part.  =D
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 07, 2017, 11:01:33 AM
Maybe someone can dig up all the stories I am sure CNN has done about bullying in the past.  Anti-bullying campaigns were in vogue recently. 

They've done some anti-bullying stories quite recently. They're about Trump bullying them with his mean, nasty words, and tweeted gifs.
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: just Warren on July 07, 2017, 04:47:44 PM
https://www.wsj.com/article_email/could-trump-really-be-draining-the-swamp-1498850264-lMyQjAxMTE3NTA0NjIwMTY0Wj/
Title: Re: Trump's cheese-maze strategy.
Post by: Scout26 on July 07, 2017, 05:08:05 PM
And those aren't the only two places.  While MSNBCNN was going all BatCrapCrazy over Mika and a poorly done WWE gif.  He signed the "Fire the Bad Employees at the VA" Law.  He also signed the VA Whistleblowers Protection Act.

I foresee more actions like this at the other agencies.

>:D =D >:D =D >:D =D >:D =D


He's doing everything possible to earn my vote in 2020.