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Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« on: July 10, 2015, 08:24:38 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/10/united-pilot-flushed-bullets-down-toilet-on-plane/

Wow if this had been Mr. or Mrs. J. Q. Public they would be in federal lockup and name(s) plastered everywhere.

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United declined to give the pilot’s name. He is very likely to be every experienced – it takes years of seniority for pilots to become captains on international flights for major American airlines.
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 09:09:22 AM »
Huh?

What I'm reading betweeen the lines is:

A pilot realizes he accidentally left a couple of cartridges in his bag from, presumably, the last time he was legally carrying a gun here in the Freedom-Loving United States.

OK, he's going to a destination where (stupidly), mere possession of ammo is illegal.  OK, so he (unwisely) dumps them in the trash.

In a search for a missing ring of one of the passengers , the cartridges are discovered by a flight attendant.

Quite properly, she turns the ammunition over to the Captain.

The Captain is once again stuck with the ammunition.

So he considers his alternatives and dumps them in the toilet. (Which, in-flight, I guess, is supposedly jettisoned from the plane over the ocean or other unpopulated area.)

Probably unwise, but it beats the alternative of turning the plane around, landing again in the Freedom-Loving United States, getting off the plane,  and disposing of the ammunition <ahem> "properly," somehow.

Figuring the flight attendant will (quite properly) have to report the discovery of the ammunition in Freedom-Loving Germany, decides to report the incident himself to the Freedom-Loving German authorities.

So there's this big *expletive deleted*ing brouhaha in Freedom-Loving Germany where they empty the waste holding tanks to find a couple of rounds of ammo.  Ick.  Yuck.  And  :rofl:

Holy crap, remind me not to drive my car into Freedom-Loving Washington D.C. or New Jersey or Maryland.

There's probably 5-10 cartridges somewhere under the seats which fell out of a box of .22s a long time ago.

And five will get you eight there's a couple of nines tucked away in the folds of my luggage from the same kind of spill incident.  And (yikes!) maybe even a deadly .45 or two.  And maybe even (double-yikes, double-deadly) H o l l o w  P o i n t s !

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 10:34:27 AM »
What a near disaster!  :O

Those bullets could have just gone off and blasted the plane out of the sky.

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2015, 11:01:34 AM »
It's not like he could toss them out the window...
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 11:59:24 AM »
Quote from: HeroHog on July 10, 2015, 11:01:34 AM
It's not like he could toss them out the window...

Well, he could have, but that would have actually been dangerous.
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 01:20:01 PM »
If they can do this, they can throw them out the window...



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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 01:40:46 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on July 10, 2015, 01:20:01 PM

Pretty sure this isn't an option on most commercial flights.

Would cut down on the line for the bathroom, though.
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 01:48:57 PM »
Looks like they're having a tailgate party  :laugh:
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 02:18:47 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on July 10, 2015, 01:20:01 PM
If they can do this, they can throw them out the window...





So, when I read about a member of the military being killed in air maneuvers, is this typical of the cause of death?
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 02:49:20 PM »
If you look closely at the photo, you can see everyone is harnessed in.
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2015, 03:33:19 PM »
I am not a lawyer, and the tiny bit I know about law in this country dwarfs my knowledge in international law.  But my question is, when something is flushed, who "owns" it?  I know in this country they have retrieved drugs from sewer lines (warrant? I don't know) but maybe the pilot figured that was the best place to stow them since that was the only possible place where they couldn't be accessed without help.

That said, I know there is a poor working slob in Germany who didn't get paid nearly enough for the work he did that day.
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2015, 04:11:34 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on July 10, 2015, 01:20:01 PM

Is that a real picture? ??? :O
Also, love how the side of the plane says Perspective. :laugh:
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2015, 04:33:03 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on July 10, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Is that a real picture? ??? :O
Also, love how the side of the plane says Perspective. :laugh:

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2015, 04:33:49 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on July 10, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Is that a real picture? ??? :O


No.

To answer other questions:

Waste is not dumped in flight.

In this case, United Airlines "owns" the waste until it is removed after landing. I bet it is treated the same as trash, which means it is tightly controlled to prevent smuggling items via the trash.

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 04:35:29 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on July 10, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Is that a real picture? ??? :O
Also, love how the side of the plane says Perspective. :laugh:

Probably a picture taken at the gate, and shopped to put in sky and clouds instead of pavement and luggage carts  :laugh:
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2015, 05:10:31 PM »
Quote from: freakazoid on July 10, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Is that a real picture?

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2015, 08:23:12 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on July 10, 2015, 01:20:01 PM


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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2015, 08:30:54 PM »
Wouldn't the pilot know about twenty different places in the plane where a few cartridges could be hidden?
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2015, 08:44:47 PM »
Quote from: fistful on July 10, 2015, 08:30:54 PM
Wouldn't the pilot know about twenty different places in the plane where a few cartridges could be hidden?

That's what I was thinking  ;)

Heck, just open the cockpit window while taxiing in and toss them out  =D
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2015, 10:29:33 AM »
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2015, 10:45:45 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on July 10, 2015, 04:33:49 PM
No.

To answer other questions:

Waste is not dumped in flight.

In this case, United Airlines "owns" the waste until it is removed after landing. I bet it is treated the same as trash, which means it is tightly controlled to prevent smuggling items via the trash.



Good to know, thanks.  That explains why they were so prepared to examine the matter in the holding tanks.

(But I've "heard of" cases where what is called "blue ice" falls from planes and has caused damage and consternation.  What is that?  My impression "from somewhere" was that it was waste mixed with anti-freeze.)

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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2015, 10:47:59 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2015, 11:42:19 AM »
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Re: Pilot Flushed Bullets On Flight
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