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Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 08:05:28 AM »
Nice....if they pull it off, space flight goes commercial....
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 08:09:34 AM »
That is so awesome. Best of luck to them =).
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 10:38:25 AM »
That is really cool. I seem to remember a thread here about these guys while they were building Nautilus.

RevDisk should have his characters take a flight to Denmark and recruit these guys for his story. :)
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 10:46:13 AM »
The astro-nut has to stand the entire flight. I wonder how many Gs one can tolerate before black out.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 12:32:13 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on August 29, 2010, 10:46:13 AM
The astro-nut has to stand the entire flight. I wonder how many Gs one can tolerate before black out.

Supposedly their system will subject the occupant to only three Gs, so standing should be doable.  I won't call the individual that will ride this thing an astronaut as he is only going to 18 miles altitude on a straight up/down flight. That is about 35 miles short of what is considered "space".
However, the 'cool factor' is undeniable, and it may lead to bigger and better commercial, non-government rocket systems.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2010, 12:35:55 PM »
This flight is just going to contain a dummy, rather than a human; to 18 miles (as RocketMan mentioned), rather than the 93 miles the journalist appears to have pulled from his rear-end. An excellent start for a small private company, though!
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2010, 12:41:40 PM »
Thanks, Marnoot, I forgot about the dummy part.  According to their website, their goal is an eventual human sub-orbital space flight in a larger rocket.  These guys bear watching as they may actually pull this thing off.  They sure seem determined given the extensive test program they've been running.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2010, 01:39:22 PM »
The floating launch platform is interesting. This has got to be a major money saver, what with not buying real estate.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2010, 02:14:18 PM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on August 29, 2010, 01:39:22 PM
The floating launch platform is interesting. This has got to be a major money saver, what with not buying real estate.

Yeah, I'm really interested in the stability of the platform related to launch precision. I wonder if it has some kind of dynamic positioning system for stability, and what their sea condition parameters are for launch.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2010, 05:45:56 PM »
Quote from: White Horseradish on August 29, 2010, 01:39:22 PM
The floating launch platform is interesting. This has got to be a major money saver, what with not buying real estate.
Proably saves them from a lot of red tape as well... "You are going to do WHAT?!?!? on that property? Launch rockets into space?!?!?!?"
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2010, 08:09:39 PM »
Quote from: Ben on August 29, 2010, 10:38:25 AM
That is really cool. I seem to remember a thread here about these guys while they were building Nautilus.

RevDisk should have his characters take a flight to Denmark and recruit these guys for his story. :)

Oh, we have rockets already.   Soon, we will have more.  A lot more.  Like, Soviet Union more. 

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But damn, these guys are doing great work.  It'll be interesting to see what happens come launch.   If it lands in relatively one piece, I'm donating some bucks to the cause.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2010, 08:11:04 PM »
Would this sort of thing be legal here in the US?
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2010, 08:23:34 PM »
Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on August 29, 2010, 08:11:04 PM
Would this sort of thing be legal here in the US?

Yea. 

Tho honestly?  You don't want to open a private space company in the US if you can avoid it, unless you're politically well connected or have the cash to become well connected.  Importing or exporting the tech you develop would be quite tricky, as it would near certainly fall under the provisions of ITAR.  You'd need to file a DSP-5 form with State per export.  There would be other paperwork for importing any tech.  State can approve or disapprove licenses on their own whim.

The US Munitions List (which mostly actually regulate non-weapons) lists metric tons of technology that requires a license to export under ITAR.  It's a huge boon to the European space industry, as ITAR is very cumbersome and limiting. 
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2010, 08:33:55 PM »
Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on August 29, 2010, 08:11:04 PM
Would this sort of thing be legal here in the US?

The government wasn't very happy with the ex-sheriff that built that rocket in his junkyard. ;)

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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2010, 11:44:04 PM »
Quote from: RevDisk on August 29, 2010, 08:23:34 PM
Yea. 

Tho honestly?  You don't want to open a private space company in the US if you can avoid it, unless you're politically well connected or have the cash to become well connected.  Importing or exporting the tech you develop would be quite tricky, as it would near certainly fall under the provisions of ITAR.  You'd need to file a DSP-5 form with State per export.  There would be other paperwork for importing any tech.  State can approve or disapprove licenses on their own whim.

The US Munitions List (which mostly actually regulate non-weapons) lists metric tons of technology that requires a license to export under ITAR.  It's a huge boon to the European space industry, as ITAR is very cumbersome and limiting. 

This.

ITAR, which makes sense in many cases, is a competitiveness killer.
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2010, 09:04:20 PM »
Quote from: roo_ster on August 29, 2010, 11:44:04 PM
This.

ITAR, which makes sense in many cases, is a competitiveness killer.

Hopefully, this will soon be a less applicable,
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2010, 10:30:04 PM »
Quote from: RevDisk on August 31, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
Hopefully, this will soon be a less applicable,

...esp. if the Chinese & Russians keep selling off all the stuff they stole from us...
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Re: Forget NASA!! Have a Danish instead
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2010, 07:23:56 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on August 31, 2010, 10:30:04 PM
...esp. if the Chinese & Russians keep selling off all the stuff they stole from us...

And the stuff Clinton sold them (for campaign contributions?).
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