Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MechAg94 on December 26, 2022, 10:34:50 PM
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/16/poland-police-chief-jaroslaw-szymczyk-fired-grenade-launcher-gift-ukraine
I must have missed this story. I am sure it was just an accidental discharge and no harm done.
Polish prosecutors are investigating a “violent release of energy” at the national police headquarters amid media reports that the chief of police fired a grenade launcher in his office.
Poland’s interior ministry said on Thursday that Jarosław Szymczyk, the police commander in chief, was injured and taken to hospital when a present he received during a visit to Ukraine exploded at police headquarters in Warsaw.
Polish media reported that the present was a grenade launcher and that Szymczyk himself had accidentally fired it in his office, in what would be a serious breach of safety regulations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmm7yBg9yhA
Saw this as part of Brandon Herrera's "The Worst Internet Gun Fails #11 - The Darwin Awards" video. He indicates the grenade launcher was supposed to have been disabled. Apparently it wasn't even unloaded.
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"Only the police should be allowed to have guns, because they've had the proper training."
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"Polish media reported that the blast had damaged a ceiling in the building." --Guardian
At least it was pointed in a safe direction, nyuck-nyuck-nyuck.
Was it an SKS? They have a goomizigah disconnector - mag release - safety - trigger-system as well as being prone to slamfires because the free-floating firing pin gets stuck forward from dirt or getting thrown forward when the bolt stops on closure.
If an SKS, it wasn't an accident, it was probably a design defect or two. Or three. (Although live grenades --if that was the "blast" --shouldn't have been played with anyhow.)
Quick sample (SKS, dummy genade):
https://youtu.be/-yhEMeBoRFw (0:29)
Longer:
https://youtu.be/r24UxXb3enI (20:05)
Recommend starting at 10:00 or so.
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Some days you appreciate minimum arming distance more than other days.
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(in Polish) "I'm the only one in this room that I know of professional enough to carry this
Glock 40 grenade launcher" :facepalm:
There are a number of things in this world I wouldn't mess with, even if I had access to them. Explosive military ordnance is part of that category.
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Meh. Explosive military ordinance (in new, unfired condition) needs to be reasonably grunt-safe. They tend to be stable, have safeties, and clear instructions, often with pictures. (FRONT, TOWARDS ENEMY for example)
UXO, or commercial explosives that assume training and competence from the user is scarier.
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UXO, or commercial explosives that assume training and competence from the user is scarier.
https://youtu.be/1evChUJshlU?t=279
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https://youtu.be/1evChUJshlU?t=279
Exactly.
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Meh. Explosive military ordinance (in new, unfired condition) needs to be reasonably grunt-safe. They tend to be stable, have safeties, and clear instructions, often with pictures. (FRONT, TOWARDS ENEMY for example) . . .
Sometimes grunts are remarkably inventive in unsafe handling.
https://www.storiesofthe448th.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Metfield-Bomb-Explosion-15th-July-1944-1.pdf
There are quite a few accounts on line of ammo/bomb dumps exploding in the US, Britain, Russia, the Pac Rim, Africa . . .
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(https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/M18%20Claymore.jpg)
I was always amused by that. It could be taken to mean "turn it around the other way, stupid"
Phrasing. Editing. Words have meaning. Sometimes.
Even antique UXO is dangerous. A couple of dudes who tried to empty the powder from unexploded Civil War cannon shells have been severely fragmented.
Hatcher found that even single-based rifle powder can be made to detonate. The test was firing a service rifle into a drum of some slow single-based powder, 4350 or 4198, I forget. All went well until they plunked a round into the bottom of the drum, when it all detonated.
He also reports an incident when black powder was being transferred from small cans and dumped into a larger container. They were opening the small steel cans with hatchets. Guess what?
Never trust a nitrate.
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(https://nationalinterest.org/sites/default/files/main_images/M18%20Claymore.jpg)
I was always amused by that. It could be taken to mean "turn it around the other way, stupid"
Phrasing. Editing. Words have meaning. Sometimes.
Even antique UXO is dangerous. A couple of dudes who tried to empty the powder from unexploded Civil War cannon shells have been severely fragmented.
Hatcher found that even single-based rifle powder can be made to detonate. The test was firing a service rifle into a drum of some slow single-based powder, 4350 or 4198, I forget. All went well until they plunked a round into the bottom of the drum, when it all detonated.
He also reports an incident when black powder was being transferred from small cans and dumped into a larger container. They were opening the small steel cans with hatchets. Guess what?
Never trust a nitrate.
I guess the question I always asked was "So which side is the front?" Maybe it should say "This side toward enemy". =D
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Yeah, exactly!
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FRONT.<--
TOWARD ENEMY
2 independent statements. Needs a Period.
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I guess the question I always asked was "So which side is the front?" Maybe it should say "This side toward enemy". =D
You guys know the other side says "back", right?
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You guys know the other side says "back", right?
Never seen one.
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Yep, the Back is also labeled, although it doesn't say "Towards Friends". It says "BACK, M18A1 APERS MINE"
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Well, I'll be!
Hey everyone! Dogmush is right! This might never happen again! ;)
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.GdcgjhGWzryX8OjUaP5-IgHaFj%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=bc54d346881e09eeb48f578af59372719f79dc331f05e6c2ccc28f479c7dfa21&ipo=images)
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Grunts must be pretty bad if they have to warned not to eat a freaking claymore.
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Oh, wow, I didn't even notice the warning not eat the land mine! =D
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That looks like the USMC version based on the warnings. >:D
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I've only ever seen the front. Wonder if that should tell me something? :P
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Guys, calm down, it’s just a desk pop.
https://youtu.be/948-2Vzgi3w
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Guys, calm down, it’s just a desk pop.
https://youtu.be/948-2Vzgi3w
Why is there blood dripping from the ceiling?
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If NYC he would have emptied the mag and then both spares, the rest of room would have joined in, and in total maybe hit the ceiling once