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Title: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 01:34:47 PM
...otherwise, I think we're going to be stuck with this:

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A friend has been watching a stray mother and kittens living in a corner of her yard all summer, and this one fell into a storm drain, and needed the FD to get it out. It then went to the 24hr vet that has the local animal control contract for our town. The friend is third-trimester pregnant/hormonal, and was terrified the kitten would go to the local county shelter, which only adopts out 30% even on kittens. So she paid the $400 24hr vet bill, (exam, fluids, x-ray, flea-dip & worming) before the county could come collect it and they'd release it to her.

She's got two cats that would pitch a fit at a third kitten, and she's leaving for a family vacation tonight. So yeah, we're taking it.  :facepalm:

Our dog's rough past as a stray makes her extremely dog-aggressive. No idea how she'll react to a kitten. There's already a ton of folks on Facebook lined up to take this kitten, so with any luck our dog will think she's a snack, and we'll have a one animal home again soon.

I think the odds of it are against me though.  =|

Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 13, 2011, 01:39:59 PM
you are screwd    better you than me
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 13, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
I'm so thankful I'm allergic to cats.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 13, 2011, 01:43:58 PM
I'm so thankful I'm allergic to cats.

hah!  so am i.  you have a daughter and you think that will matter?  HAH!!! grasshopper has much to learn....
wife one?  had 9 cats at one time
oldest kid  had a cat for a year. inside much eye watering for me   
i can't wait to see how your kid plays you
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 01:53:02 PM
At our peak, we had two cats and two dogs, and the first set of twin girls was born too. The cats had been first, and were antagonistic to the first dog, and downright nasty basement-hiding funk when we got the second dog as a companion to the first.

When the girls were only 3 months old, the first dog died of auto-immune hemolytic anemia.

When the two sets of twins were aged 1 and 2, the first cat died at age seven, reasons unknown, just curled up on a chair in the finished basement.

Reached out to pet him and "thunk" cold roast beef. (he was never quite right though, dumb, and had forever-wet stools that three different vets could never diagnose even with labs.)

Back in Christmas of '07, the second dog started having seizures, then never came out of it despite meds, all he could do was pant and drool. Had to put him down.

Then in '09 the last cat died (the girls barely knew we had him because he still wanted nothing to do with the kids) accidentaly ran into a loop of cell phone charger between the bed and Mrs. Dual's night stand. Fought and rolled, tightening it, and strangled himself. I actually heard him struggle, but thought it was the girls just being naughty and yelled down the hall for them to go to bed.

A good scream from Mrs. Dual alerted me to that one.

Hopefully the kitten, six/seven weeks and just weaned, will bond with the dog. She had one litter in rescue before we'd gotten her, so maybe she'll take to the kitten. I'll do a complete 180 and be happy if the cat and dog play and cuddle, and the cat's outgoing with everyone in the house.  

A long experience with stubborn cranky cats that just hide from everyone under furniture and in the basement, and don't accept new kids, and provide nothing but litter box contents, vet bills, and consume food, are why I'm not really a fan. The only upside was that when the girls did see the cats, it was so rarely, they were as excited as if some unusual animal like a fox, bear, or deer were in the suburban backyard.So when they died, they didn't even notice.

 Crossing my fingers for the outgoing/fun "thinks it's a dog" kind of cat here.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: gunsmith on July 13, 2011, 02:02:51 PM
its a cute kitten, you're dooooooooommmmed
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: mtnbkr on July 13, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
Our dog's rough past as a stray makes her extremely dog-aggressive. No idea how she'll react to a kitten.

Our last dog, a rescue, was dog-aggressive, but fine around cats, even a bit timid. 

Chris
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: roo_ster on July 13, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
A long experience with stubborn cranky cats that just hide from everyone under furniture and in the basement, and don't accept new kids, and provide nothing but litter box contents, vet bills, and consume food, are why I'm not really a fan.

Yeah, not much point so such a critter, except as a mouser on a farm.

I think I'd likely put such a critter and worthless money-sink out of my misery.

FTR, I like cats that like people.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 02:58:02 PM
I've felt that "dogs and kids first" kitten second is the way to go. Now I get to find out.

Update from Mrs. Dual calling me at work, our dog, a 3 year old pitbull/bulldog mix rescue met the kitten. Her first impulse was to try and carry it around in her mouth by the nape of the neck like a puppy. Then she licked it, and rolled over on her back for the kitten.

Mrs. Dual and my daughters have locked the kitten in one room with a litter box, water and food, and are now off to Walmart to buy several thousand dollars worth of cat supplies I'm sure.

Yep, I'm #^&#*'d.  ;/
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 13, 2011, 03:29:22 PM
hah!  so am i.  you have a daughter and you think that will matter?  HAH!!! grasshopper has much to learn....
wife one?  had 9 cats at one time
oldest kid  had a cat for a year. inside much eye watering for me   
i can't wait to see how your kid plays you

I'm not just slightly allergic to cats. Spending significant time in a house with one is not quite deadly, but it sure feels like it. (I've never had to LIVE in a house with one, so it may be.)

And, like Rooster, as much as I joke, I don't hate cats. I, too, like cats that like people. I just prefer dogs. (And I'm not allergic to dogs, another plus.)
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Brad Johnson on July 13, 2011, 03:39:27 PM
If you're allergic to cats but like them, a spayed female is your best bet.  It's the proteins in their saliva that trigger the reaction, and spayed females have something like 1/10th of the proteins that males do, even neutered ones.

Brad
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 03:42:56 PM
If you're allergic to cats but like them, a spayed female is your best bet.  It's the proteins in their saliva that trigger the reaction, and spayed females have something like 1/10th of the proteins that males do, even neutered ones.

Brad

That's interesting to know. I'm allergic to cats and dogs, but as I've aged, it's only to the point if I pet them, then accidentally rub my face etc. before I remembered to wash my hands off. 
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 13, 2011, 03:44:17 PM
If you're allergic to cats but like them, a spayed female is your best bet.  It's the proteins in their saliva that trigger the reaction, and spayed females have something like 1/10th of the proteins that males do, even neutered ones.

Brad

I'm going to pretend I don't know that information. ;)

(Also, I have very little to worry about as it appears my little girl is a dog person. And by appears, I mean: tries to jump out of your arms squeeling to get to the doggie.)
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Balog on July 13, 2011, 03:53:39 PM
If you're allergic to cats but like them, a spayed female is your best bet.  It's the proteins in their saliva that trigger the reaction, and spayed females have something like 1/10th of the proteins that males do, even neutered ones.

Brad

Interesting.... I love cats, but my wife and I are both pretty allergic. Once our current "zomg small and furry must eat it!!!" dog has passed away, we may look into getting a kitteh.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 13, 2011, 04:07:40 PM
I'm going to pretend I don't know that information. ;)

(Also, I have very little to worry about as it appears my little girl is a dog person. And by appears, I mean: tries to jump out of your arms squeeling to get to the doggie.)

oooh!  bring her by  got a 12 week border collie and one going on 10 months
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: bedlamite on July 13, 2011, 04:23:22 PM
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Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...

Are you talking about the dog with the toilet seat around the neck?  :laugh:
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Harold Tuttle on July 13, 2011, 04:58:42 PM
Kittah will control your mind with gondi
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 05:06:34 PM
Are you talking about the dog with the toilet seat around the neck?  :laugh:

Yep.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on July 13, 2011, 05:12:09 PM

 Crossing my fingers for the outgoing/fun "thinks it's a dog" kind of cat here.

Here's a hint:

Get a dog if you want a "thinks it's a dog" kind of cat.  Cats like that are rare.  That's why cats are cats (and are hated), and dogs are dogs (and are loved).
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 13, 2011, 05:19:20 PM
Our last dog, a rescue, was dog-aggressive, but fine around cats, even a bit timid. 


Same with my dog.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: roo_ster on July 13, 2011, 05:20:22 PM
oooh!  bring her by  got a 12 week border collie and one going on 10 months

TWO young border collies?!
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Balog on July 13, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
TWO young border collies?!

They can take turns herding each other.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: seeker_two on July 13, 2011, 05:46:46 PM

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It's cute....I think you should send it to a good home......do you have a large envelope and lots of bubble wrap?....  =D
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 13, 2011, 05:50:22 PM
TWO young border collies?!


yea  its busy at times. thankfully the 4 year old is equal to tiring out one pup. and the rest of us tag team the other.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 13, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
Here's a hint:

Get a dog if you want a "thinks it's a dog" kind of cat.  Cats like that are rare.  That's why cats are cats (and are hated), and dogs are dogs (and are loved).

Well, hopefully being only 6-7 weeks old, it'll imprint on the dog, and being manhandled loved by four girls who won't leave it alone, it'll hopefully become a "people person" cat.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: GigaBuist on July 13, 2011, 11:17:59 PM
Here's a hint:

Get a dog if you want a "thinks it's a dog" kind of cat.  Cats like that are rare.  That's why cats are cats (and are hated), and dogs are dogs (and are loved).

We had four cats.  One ran off.  Half of them (two of the remaining ones) act like dogs.  They just follow you around and cuddle with you.  They also snuggle up to the dogs in the winter around the fireplace.

Pretty rare.  My wife thinks it has to do with how snuggly I was with them as kittens.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: 230RN on July 14, 2011, 02:53:39 AM
Cats are Citizens.

Dogs are Subjects.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 14, 2011, 06:57:11 AM
Cats are Citizens.

Dogs are Subjects.

Either one can be made into delicious entrees in a pinch.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: seeker_two on July 14, 2011, 09:43:20 AM
Cats are Citizens Welfare Recipients.

Dogs are Subjects Responsible Citizens.

FIFY.....  =D
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 14, 2011, 10:22:13 AM
FIFY.....  =D

Actually, he's right about dogs. They are subjects. And it is good that they are.

Cats think they are aristocracy.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Balog on July 14, 2011, 10:55:18 AM
Affectionate cats are great because they can be held and snuggled on your lap. Dogs small enough to do that are often neurotic messes.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: AJ Dual on July 14, 2011, 11:05:57 AM
Affectionate cats are great because they can be held and snuggled on your lap. Dogs small enough to do that are often neurotic messes.

Our 60lb pitbull mix thinks she's a lap dog, although she's settled down and is usually content to be a "half on you head in lap"-dog now. Although she'll never be completely broken of the habit, as we've got a few relatives/visitors who enjoy having her there, especially in winter time.

She's doing very well with the kitten. Sniffing and licking it, then nosing it around, rolling it over into the crook of her legs and belly like it's a puppy. The kitten seeks her out for face-rubs.

Following normal cat development, she'll start running playing in another two weeks or so, and that'll be interesting.

Too early to tell for sure, but I think she'll be very laid back and social. She's gotten a flea-dip, and a few partial washings after the litter box without any cat-water freak-outs either. And does not struggle if you roll her over onto her back.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: seeker_two on July 14, 2011, 11:27:18 AM
Actually, he's right about dogs. They are subjects. And it is good that they are.

Cats think they are aristocracy.

Not sure how.....dogs actually work for a living....guarding property, herding animals, babysitting, etc.....

Cats just consume resources and act as if they're entitled to more.....that is, unless you leave them outside....then they're forced to hunt rats and squirrels....kinda like if you pull welfare away from those who can work for a living....
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 14, 2011, 11:32:31 AM
Not sure how.....dogs actually work for a living....guarding property, herding animals, babysitting, etc.....

Cats just consume resources and act as if they're entitled to more.....that is, unless you leave them outside....then they're forced to hunt rats and squirrels....kinda like if you pull welfare away from those who can work for a living....

Nothing you said contradicts what I said. Subjects are happy to work for their king.

Aristocrats consume resources and act as if they're entitled to more.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: seeker_two on July 14, 2011, 11:34:44 AM
Nothing you said contradicts what I said. Subjects are happy to work for their king.

Aristocrats consume resources and act as if they're entitled to more.

Touche'.....  =D
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: vaskidmark on July 14, 2011, 01:03:53 PM
Cats are Citizens Chinese food on the hoof  And individually, half a pair of slippers or mittens - whichever you prefer..

Dogs are Subjects loyal minions.

FIFY.  No need to thank me.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: grampster on July 14, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
Dogs are Republicans.

Cats are Democrats.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: makattak on July 14, 2011, 03:50:52 PM
FIFY.  No need to thank me.

stay safe.

But I'll thank you just the same.

Forth, my loyal minions!
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: RocketMan on July 14, 2011, 07:31:45 PM
Dogs are Republicans.

Cats are Democrats.

Here endeth the argument.  =D
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Boomhauer on July 14, 2011, 07:38:10 PM
We had four cats.  One ran off.  Half of them (two of the remaining ones) act like dogs.  They just follow you around and cuddle with you.  They also snuggle up to the dogs in the winter around the fireplace.

Pretty rare.  My wife thinks it has to do with how snuggly I was with them as kittens.

My cat growls at unknown animals in the yard or unknown people.

Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: TommyGunn on July 14, 2011, 07:51:19 PM
Dogs are RepublicansRINOS

Cats are Democrats. LIBERTARIANS.

FIFY.   :lol: =D =D [tinfoil] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Bogie on July 14, 2011, 09:57:21 PM
Last weekend, Arne's girlfriend came to visit, with kids. And one of 'em brought the cutest widdle kitten along... She pulled it out, and the first thing she heard was...
 
"Oh ()*^*(&^*()! She's got a scoobie snack! Someone hold onto Max!"
 
Max was banished to the Doghouse of Chain forthwith.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Hutch on July 15, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
quothe AJ
Quote
(he was never quite right though, dumb,...
Sic Semper Felinus.  All cats are dumb.  Ever tried to teach a cat anything????

Dogs have owners;  Cats have staff.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: TommyGunn on July 15, 2011, 10:59:46 AM
quothe AJ Sic Semper Felinus.  All cats are dumb.  Ever tried to teach a cat anything????

Dogs have owners;  Cats have staff.
;/

Cats aren't dumb.  They don't need to be taught anything because they already know everything. [tinfoil] [popcorn]
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: Bogie on July 15, 2011, 09:22:16 PM
Cats are obviously liberals.
 
We are destined to be their servants, because we have obviously not achieved to their level.
 
Just had a thought... I wonder what would happen if a squirrelapaulted one into the lake...
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: TommyGunn on July 15, 2011, 11:43:19 PM
............I wonder what would happen if a squirrelapaulted one into the lake...


Cats can swim.  Unlike liberals.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: RevDisk on July 16, 2011, 12:14:44 AM
Cats are obviously liberals.
 
We are destined to be their servants, because we have obviously not achieved to their level.
 
Just had a thought... I wonder what would happen if a squirrelapaulted one into the lake...


If I parse the last line correctly, and one catapulted a cat into a lake for entertainment's sake, I imagine it would came with the possibility of folks strongly disapproving of this activity.  Well, that would be an interesting day.
Title: Re: Pray my dog tries to eat her...
Post by: 230RN on July 16, 2011, 06:34:17 AM
Wouldn't one use a dogapult to catapult a cat?