Author Topic: Scream like a girl (Read 2730 times)

vaskidmark · « **on:** July 29, 2015, 04:06:55 PM »

http://tinyurl.com/no33l6h

It's Texas, y'all.

I'd prefer not to Monday morning quarterback all the mistakes of omission and commission, but knowing this bunch there is going to be little chance of that.

Kudos to the partner. Without that intervention there might have been a different person laying on the ground.

stay safe.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #1 on:** July 29, 2015, 04:32:17 PM »

The usual response from the suspect's brother:

http://www.kltv.com/story/29211815/officer-involved-shooting-victims-brother-he-was-trying-to-turn-his-life-around

AmbulanceDriver · « **Reply #2 on:** July 29, 2015, 04:53:33 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on July 29, 2015, 04:32:17 PM

The usual response from the suspect's brother:

http://www.kltv.com/story/29211815/officer-involved-shooting-victims-brother-he-was-trying-to-turn-his-life-around

Although this actually seems like a very different response than the "minority" community when someone plays stupid games and wins stupid prizes: “From everything that I've heard and seen, they acted on someone waving a firearm. I wasn't there and I'm not here to judge,” said Jeff Bushey. “I figure that the investigation will reveal it and justice will be served in the end.”

Tallpine · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:02:52 PM »

I didn't listen to the sound.

So why were they interrupting the guy washing his hands

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:04:58 PM »

Old boy was taking fire from both occifers at once. Talk about double-tapping.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:07:01 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on July 29, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

I didn't listen to the sound.

So why were they interrupting the guy washing his hands

"You're a suspect in reference to a theft case." I'm guessing the guy had a reputation, since the officer made sure to scoot the table knife further away from him.

KD5NRH · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:07:19 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on July 29, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

So why were they interrupting the guy washing his hands

Didn't you see the "employees must wash hands" sign? No self service in Applebees.

Tallpine · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:10:48 PM »

Quote from: fistful on July 29, 2015, 06:07:01 PM

"You're a suspect in reference to a theft case." I'm guessing the guy had a reputation, since the officer made sure to scoot the table knife further away from him.

But not enough reputation to cuff and frisk ?

I guess he won't be washing his hands anymore.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2015, 06:26:21 PM »

Quote from: AmbulanceDriver on July 29, 2015, 04:53:33 PM

Although this actually seems like a very different response than the "minority" community when someone plays stupid games and wins stupid prizes: “From everything that I've heard and seen, they acted on someone waving a firearm. I wasn't there and I'm not here to judge,” said Jeff Bushey. “I figure that the investigation will reveal it and justice will be served in the end.”

I was referring to the "he was trying to turn his life around" cliche.

But yeah, Jeff Bushey wasn't screaming for the officers' heads like some do. Not sure what the perp was thinking, pulling a BB pistol on two armed LEOs. Suicide by cop?

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2015, 07:22:47 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on July 29, 2015, 06:10:48 PM

But not enough reputation to cuff and frisk ?

I guess he won't be washing his hands anymore.

I was presuming they wanted to do that outside the restaurant, so as not to embarrass the management too badly. I don't know if that's realistic.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #10 on:** July 29, 2015, 10:29:59 PM »

Quote from: Angel Eyes on July 29, 2015, 04:32:17 PM

The usual response from the suspect's brother:

http://www.kltv.com/story/29211815/officer-involved-shooting-victims-brother-he-was-trying-to-turn-his-life-around

I'm confused. In fact, I'm baffled. The author of that article completely omitted mention of the mobs of distraught people marching to the beat of "White Lives Matter!"

Boomhauer · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2015, 10:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Tallpine on July 29, 2015, 06:02:52 PM

I didn't listen to the sound.

So why were they interrupting the guy washing his hands

No the guy shoplifted from Wal-Mart and went to hide in the Applebee's restroom. Then the officers confronted him there and took him outside to question and arrest him. He then chose to remove himself from the gene pool in a most efficient manner, because there is no way in hell that play was going to end well for him...

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since the officer made sure to scoot the table knife further away from him.

One would be wise to get a potential weapon like that away from any suspect, reputation or not, in a situation like that.

Back when I had to confront people I always either put myself in between the person I was talking to and potential weapons or I called them away from said potential weapons to lessen the chance of them suddenly grabbing a nearby object and skewering me or knocking me over the head before I could react. I also tried to position myself between them and any area nearby that the potential to have a weapon (such as a vehicle, RV, tent, etc).

Boomhauer · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2015, 10:41:01 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 29, 2015, 10:29:59 PM

I'm confused. In fact, I'm baffled. The author of that article completely omitted mention of the mobs of distraught people marching to the beat of "White Lives Matter!"

The white mobs are too busy working to pay for the other mobs...

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #13 on:** July 30, 2015, 12:30:03 AM »

This is exactly the reason why cops should all be required to wear body cameras at all times on duty.
The only fault I'll find with the officers is not restraining and frisking the guy while they were still in the can. But, I can see trying to avoid excess drama in a business. IMO the guy committed suicide by cop.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #14 on:** July 30, 2015, 01:00:51 AM »

Quote from: Boomhauer on July 29, 2015, 10:35:59 PM

One would be wise to get a potential weapon like that away from any suspect, reputation or not, in a situation like that.

Back when I had to confront people I always either put myself in between the person I was talking to and potential weapons or I called them away from said potential weapons to lessen the chance of them suddenly grabbing a nearby object and skewering me or knocking me over the head before I could react. I also tried to position myself between them and any area nearby that the potential to have a weapon (such as a vehicle, RV, tent, etc).

The fact that he even noticed the flatware sitting there just gives me the idea the officer was expecting trouble. Going back for a second look, though, he didn't move it all that far.