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Title: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: Ben on May 13, 2008, 04:51:56 AM
When are these business / plant owners gonna start sabotaging or simply blowing up their facilities before they get booted out? On the other hand, as I've mentioned before, he's booting out the foreign expertise as well, so eventually stuff is gonna break down unless China or somebody bails him out in exchange for his oil (which is crappy and involves high tech for extraction).

Chavez is the closest real life example of an "Atlas Shrugged" scenario that I've ever seen. Who knew Ayn Rand was writing a non-fiction text?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7397326.stm

 Venezuela takes over steel firm

President Hugo Chavez has signed a decree to nationalise Venezuela's biggest steelmaker, Ternium-Sidor.

Argentina's Techint, which owns 60% of it, has been given until the end of June to hand it over.

In the past two years the Venezuelan state has taken over foreign-controlled companies including cement, telecoms, oil, gas and electricity firms.

President Chavez threatened to nationalise the steelmaker after trade union talks broke down last month.

The workers wanted better pay and benefits.

Talks between the government and Techint broke down earlier this month when a price for the controlling stake could not be agreed.

Rodolfo Sanz, minister of basic industries and mining, has been appointed as the new president of Ternium-Sidor.

The government already owned 20% of the shares and had first threatened to take control of the company last year unless its owners agreed to sell more of its steel in Venezuela.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: Sergeant Bob on May 13, 2008, 05:26:26 AM
Ah yes, another worker's paradise. undecided
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: El Tejon on May 13, 2008, 05:28:34 AM
Let's not give President Obama any ideas. grin

I have seen calls to take the airline industry, oil industry and others "off the market".  No question Obama will make a grab for everything he can.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: Manedwolf on May 13, 2008, 07:19:22 AM
Good luck running an arc furnace without skilled employees and technicians from the parent company to keep it going.

Maybe they could get Chavez to personally inspect it while they push buttons.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 13, 2008, 07:52:19 AM
Quote
Argentina's Techint, which owns 60% of it, has been given until the end of June to hand it over plant explosives in vital places on every plant.
There. Corrected it. If they have the balls to do it that is...
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: wideym on May 13, 2008, 06:57:08 PM
Chavez won't have to worry about the US trying to assasinate him if he keeps this up, a few pissed off mulitnational corporations who lost or are about to lose hundreds of millions of dollars when he nationalizes their factorys will do it for us.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: SomeKid on May 13, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
Chavez won't have to worry about the US trying to assasinate him if he keeps this up, a few pissed off mulitnational corporations who lost or are about to lose hundreds of millions of dollars when he nationalizes their factorys will do it for us.

Frankly, I am surprised it hasn't happened already. Or at the very least, destruction of the facility to screw Hugo. The utter cowardice and willingness to cut and run astounds me.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: wmenorr67 on May 13, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Wow I acutually agree with SomeKid on something.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: Scout26 on May 13, 2008, 09:03:20 PM
They better start stocking up on '57 Buick parts.......
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: 209 on May 13, 2008, 09:09:57 PM
I think BenW called it.  The Chinese will gladly step up and help him out.  Maybe in a few more years, they'll be running the country.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: SomeKid on May 14, 2008, 09:32:53 AM
Wow I acutually agree with SomeKid on something.

How does it feel to actually be correct?  grin laugh
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: The Annoyed Man on May 14, 2008, 11:07:45 AM
Neither communism nor dictators are new to South America.  I'm surprised anybody is surprised about this.  At least Reagan had the balls to confront it.  Unlike some Presidents.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: Sergeant Bob on May 14, 2008, 02:28:37 PM
Neither communism nor dictators are new to South America.  I'm surprised anybody is surprised about this.  At least Reagan had the balls to confront it.  Unlike some Presidents.

Well, we're surprised that you're surprised that we're surprised because, we're not really surprised at all.
Surprised? grin
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: wmenorr67 on May 14, 2008, 07:55:51 PM
Wow I acutually agree with SomeKid on something.

How does it feel to actually be correct?  grin laugh

Actually wondering that about you.  I am correct quite a bit of the time.  This just happens to be the first time you were correct first.
Title: Re: Hugo Chavez Nationalizes Yet Another Industry
Post by: SomeKid on May 14, 2008, 07:58:02 PM
Wow I acutually agree with SomeKid on something.

How does it feel to actually be correct?  grin laugh

Actually wondering that about you.  I am correct quite a bit of the time.  This just happens to be the first time you were correct first.

I see I still have much work to do, correcting all your incorrectness. Oh well.  cheesy