Zero Tolerance vs the ADA?

[BryanP]

That's the showdown I see coming from this if nobody backs down.

http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Grand-Island-Preschooler-Forbidden-Sign-Language-for-His-Own-Name-167394325.html

Summary:

In Grand Island Nebraska a 3 yr old deaf child is in preschool. His name is Hunter.
The official sign language sign for his name is 2 fingers like a gun.
The school is insisting the child use a different name since their weapons policy bars any instrument that looks like a weapon.

No, I am not kidding.

[lupinus]

Saw this earlier on another forum.

Bunch of freaking idiots.

[K Frame]

But its for the chillruns!

Millions of chillruns are finger shot every year!

Oh the huge manatee!

[RoadKingLarry]

Every day I am presented with another example of why the human race is doomed

[ArfinGreebly]

Every day I am presented with another example of why the human race is doomed

For selected values of "human race."

[vaskidmark]

The school is insisting the child use a different name since their weapons policy bars any instrument that looks like a weapon.

This must not happen.

At first I was going to suggest something like the Hawaiian Good Luck Wave, but realized the name would be used by school staff when communicating to him.

Therefore, a list of names school may let him use: WeAreABunchofFreakingIdiots, or WhoeverThoughtofThisShouldSucktheSweatOffHis$Bodypart, or UsingThisSignJustProvesZeroToleranceDoesNothingToSavetheChildren.

And every teacher, administrator, aide, cafeteria worker, janitor, bus driver, and crossing guard (did I leave anybody out?) must be taught how to sign his School Name and be tested monthly on doing it properly.

stay safe.

PS - Choice #2 has some real promise in providing returns under Zero Tolerance.  Please vote for Choice #2.

[SteveS]

Wow, I say sue them.  Heck, I have time and should look into getting licensed in Nebraska.  I will do this case pro bono.

[Lee]

That's too good for them. Someone give the kid a real gun...just to see if they recognize the difference.
This is so stupid, I can barely believe it's true.

[Hawkmoon]

Considering that the ADA is Federal anti-discrimination law, I predict that the Feds will win.

What's the kid supposed to do, use one name at school and another everywhere else?

[zxcvbob]

Seems like a perfect 1st Amendment case too.  (if one's own legal name isn't protected speech, what is?)

[HankB]

The proper sign to use when responding to the request that the kid change his name is a clenched fist with an upraised middle finger.

[vaskidmark]

Go here http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/28/deaf-boys-name-violates-weapons-policy-school and take the poll.  Although the majority of votes (105 when I voted) are in support of the kid keeping his name, I say there is a problem if it is not 100% in his favor.

stay safe.

[Jamie B]

Common sense dictates that his name be left alone.

[BryanP]

Considering that the ADA is Federal anti-discrimination law, I predict that the Feds will win.

That was kind of my point.  None of the articles I've found have directly addressed this being a possible ADA issue, but I don't see why it wouldn't apply.

[Ben]

Go here http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/28/deaf-boys-name-violates-weapons-policy-school and take the poll.  Although the majority of votes (105 when I voted) are in support of the kid keeping his name, I say there is a problem if it is not 100% in his favor.

stay safe.

Currently 8145 sane people, 720 people who should never breed. You're right - even a single "no" or "not sure" vote is one too many for something like this, at least in America.

[brimic]

Currently 8145 sane people, 720 people who should never breed. You're right - even a single "no" or "not sure" vote is one too many for something like this, at least in America.

America is run by the lowest common denominator- from school boards on up.

[grampster]

Just once I'd like to sit on a board that had a member or several members that objected to nonsense like this.  My mockery of their nitwittery would be of Academy Award quality.

[TechMan]

Currently 8145 sane people, 720 people who should never breed. You're right - even a single "no" or "not sure" vote is one too many for something like this, at least in America.

Unfortunately the website is for the Toronto (Canada) Sun newspaper.

[vaskidmark]

Unfortunately the website is for the Toronto (Canada) Sun newspaper.

But everybody knows that the liberals, like the ones in charge of zero-tolerance, think the Canadians have all he best ideas.  Just look at how they clamored to get Canadian-style health care.

Thus, what canadians think is very important.

stay safe.

[AmbulanceDriver]

You know, I think I just had an epiphany here.    The problem is CANADA!  Think about it.   Canadian health care...   Canadian BACON  Neither of those are real things!   I mean, it has "bacon" in it, so it gets you all excited, but then, the disappointment sets in when you see what it actually is.   Same thing with their "health care".  Gets you all excited about "free health care!"  but then........


Canada is the Anti-reality!

[MechAg94]

You know, I think I just had an epiphany here.    The problem is CANADA!  Think about it.   Canadian health care...   Canadian BACON  Neither of those are real things!   I mean, it has "bacon" in it, so it gets you all excited, but then, the disappointment sets in when you see what it actually is.   Same thing with their "health care".  Gets you all excited about "free health care!"  but then........


Canada is the Anti-reality!

Yeah!  Where is the Hacker HellStorm when you need one?

[Nick1911]

You know, I think I just had an epiphany here.    The problem is CANADA!  Think about it.   Canadian health care...   Canadian BACON  Neither of those are real things!   I mean, it has "bacon" in it, so it gets you all excited, but then, the disappointment sets in when you see what it actually is.   Same thing with their "health care".  Gets you all excited about "free health care!"  but then........


Canada is the Anti-reality!

BLAME CANADA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxPRHXgYVlk

[zxcvbob]

http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/School-District-Says-Deaf-Student-Not-Required-to-Change-Name-167784235.html

The school is backpedaling, but I can't tell that they've actually given up.  Looks like weasel-words; they don't demand that he change his name, just don't use the sign for it.

ACLU will eat them for lunch.  I wonder if FIRE will join in on the fun?

[Tallpine]

http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/School-District-Says-Deaf-Student-Not-Required-to-Change-Name-167784235.html

The school is backpedaling, but I can't tell that they've actually given up.  Looks like weasel-words; they don't demand that he change his name, just don't use the sign for it.

For a sign talker, that's the same thing :(

[zxcvbob]

For a sign talker, that's the same thing :(

I know that.  I think they haven't really backed down yet, just released a misleading press report to take the heat off.