COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread

[MillCreek]

An interesting primer on mRNA vaccines.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/89998?xid=nl_medpageexclusive_2020-12-04&eun=g149952d0r&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MPTExclusives_120420&utm_term=NL_Gen_Int_Medpage_Exclusives_Active

[cordex]

An interesting primer on mRNA vaccines.

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/89998?xid=nl_medpageexclusive_2020-12-04&eun=g149952d0r&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MPTExclusives_120420&utm_term=NL_Gen_Int_Medpage_Exclusives_Active

Thanks.  I don't know much about mRNA vaccines and now I am a tiny bit less ignorant.

[Fly320s]

An interesting primer on mRNA vaccines.

Let me know when we have an mNRA vaccine.

[Ben]

California might start turning back to conservative yet:

LA Mayor approves outdoor dining for the caterer for a movie company shooting on location. The location? Directly across the street from a restaurant that was ordered to shut down its outdoor dining.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/12/04/blood-boiling-restaurant-owner-rips-l-a-mayor-garcetti-for-approving-outdoor-dining-on-movie-sets-while-restaurants-are-shut-down/

[Hawkmoon]

I sometimes reflect that a lot of people look "stupid"  in masks (a mirror is often close by me when I am thinking this.   ) but still,  if they can help,   it's really not a horrid sacrifice.

Conversely, an awful lot of people look really stupid (without the quotation marks) without masks.

[Jim147]

A lot of people are stupid.

[Perd Hapley]

Conversely, an awful lot of people look really stupid (without the quotation marks) without masks.

Dude, honestly. Back off the Koolaid a little bit.

[Ron]

A lot of people are stupid.

Your comment reminds me of a George Orwell quote I ran across recently.

 “One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that: no ordinary man could be such a fool.”

[Perd Hapley]

[Ben]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1334898702335553540

[WLJ]

OMG!

Sams had both TP  and PT

[Ron]

I read that Florida is going to start requiring disclosure of PCR Cycle Threshold Data In COVID Tests.

Some tests are too sensitive is the complaint.

[MillCreek]

I noticed yesterday as I was out and about that the great toilet paper shortage, phase two, in the PNW has abated.  Both Safeway and Fred Meyer were fully stocked with all brands and sizes with no empty gaps on the shelf.  That shortage did not last long.

[DittoHead]

People make some pretty big mistakes when they don't understand the data they're looking at.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/06/yes-total-deaths-in-the-u-s-are-up/

[Ron]

People make some pretty big mistakes when they don't understand the data they're looking at.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/06/yes-total-deaths-in-the-u-s-are-up/

We really won't know the actual 2020 deaths until probably March or April.

If nothing else, the China virus is a stress test on the population that speeds up the passing of those who are physically or immune compromised.

It's particularly hard on the elderly.

[MillCreek]

The 'Swiss Cheese' model is widely used in my profession of risk management/patient safety.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/coronavirus-swiss-cheese-infection-mackay.html?fbclid=IwAR0TBU-f5qeAd4nGsh54ufb0IFKuXi4xFfdpYOcZn3MSvIOm2fMQMjazg00

[Perd Hapley]

The 'Swiss Cheese' model is widely used in my profession of risk management/patient safety.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/coronavirus-swiss-cheese-infection-mackay.html?fbclid=IwAR0TBU-f5qeAd4nGsh54ufb0IFKuXi4xFfdpYOcZn3MSvIOm2fMQMjazg00

The 4 rules of gun safety.

[cordex]

The 4 rules of gun safety.

I believe those are the anti-swiss-cheese rules.

[MillCreek]

I believe those are the anti-swiss-cheese rules.

OK, this is gold, and now I have to think of a way to work this into my root cause analysis lecture. 

[WLJ]

Any legal experts on here want to chime in on this?

MacKenzie Sigalos reports:

    One of [Dallas labor and employment attorney Rogge] Dunn’s clients in the restaurant sector thinks a compulsory inoculation requirement could be a game changer for business.

    “They think it gives them a competitive advantage,” explained Dunn. “They could say to their customers, ‘Hey, our restaurant is safe. All of our employees have been vaccinated.’”

    It may be, in part, a PR tactic, but Dunn said it is totally within an employer’s rights to implement this kind of requirement.

    “Under the law, an employer can force an employee to get vaccinated, and if they don’t take it, fire them,” said Dunn.

CNBC reports that companies have a legal right to fire you if you refuse the COVID-19 vaccine
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/07/cnbc-reports-that-companies-have-a-legal-right-to-fire-you-if-you-refuse-the-covid-19-vaccine/

[Andiron]

Wonder why they want this vaccine so bad? :tinfoil:

[RoadKingLarry]

If my company mandates it I will immediately submit my retirement papers.
I don't necessarily have a problem with the vaccine, this one or any other but I'll be damned if I'll be forced to take it.

[MillCreek]

I commented on compulsory vaccines earlier.  Employers can do that in Washington state and fire you if you refuse.  I know that several other states have similar statutory or case law dealing specifically with vaccines, in addition to the general 'at-will' employment principle.  

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/mandatory-covid-19-vaccination-employment

https://www.natlawreview.com/article/can-employers-require-employees-to-be-vaccinated-against-covid-19

https://www.taylorenglish.com/blogs-coronavirus-impact-updates,state-powers-to-mandate-covid-19-vaccination

[WLJ]

I smell BS

    "Women across the country who work in restaurants are being asked to remove their masks so that male customers can judge their looks and therefore their tips on that basis," says Saru Jayaraman, president of One Fair Wage.https://t.co/yLXubA8Rrx

    — NPR (@NPR) December 8, 2020

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/07/npr-waitresses-are-being-asked-to-remove-their-masks-so-men-know-how-much-to-tip/

[kgbsquirrel]

I smell BS
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/07/npr-waitresses-are-being-asked-to-remove-their-masks-so-men-know-how-much-to-tip/

National Propaganda Radio.