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Will the British bail on the EU?

Yes
11 (21.6%)
No
8 (15.7%)
Yes but with riots
9 (17.6%)
No but with riots
6 (11.8%)
Fish and chips
17 (33.3%)

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British exit of EU guesses
« on: June 23, 2016, 02:23:41 AM »
Today's  the day. Will the British bail out of the sinking ship that is the EU?
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 06:24:10 AM »
I believe the killing of Jo Cox ended any chance of Brexit.  Until that happened Brexit was a real possibility.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 07:06:42 AM »
The British have a slave and serf mentality more than even we in the US. Their national pride can only be found in support of their soccer team and welfare state. Otherwise they have been propagandized into perpetual self loathing.

I will truly be surprised if they grow a spine and leave the EU.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 07:12:37 AM »
I predict they will leave the EU, pop round to the chemist's, and buy some fags.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 07:57:45 AM »
I believe the killing of Jo Cox ended any chance of Brexit.  Until that happened Brexit was a real possibility.

Damned convenient that...[tinfoil]
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 08:04:09 AM »
I believe the killing of Jo Cox ended any chance of Brexit.  Until that happened Brexit was a real possibility.
Very likely true.

Watched some "talking heads" on TV and their consensus seemed to be "Leaving would be BAD because so many rich folks depend on EU membership for their cash flow."

We'll see how that argument plays as distance from Parliament and 10 Downing Street increases, but, sadly, Ron may have nailed it with his comments above.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 08:17:34 AM »
Very likely true.

Watched some "talking heads" on TV and their consensus seemed to be "Leaving would be BAD because so many rich folks depend on EU membership for their cash flow."

We'll see how that argument plays as distance from Parliament and 10 Downing Street increases, but, sadly, Ron may have nailed it with his comments above.

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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 09:12:33 AM »
I honestly have no idea what will happen. I know the inclination of the British people only through the polls and they have been inconsistent lately.

So, fish and chips.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 09:35:12 AM »
I voted yes, yes with riots, and fish & chips.

I suspect a YES vote will not end the issue, as the ruling class are not likely to give up a smidge of power just because the Brits want out.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 10:27:29 AM »
Voted "no" and agree with Rocketman. The assassination changed things.

Funny, one of the things I heard a couple of days ago is that the EU commission has just outlawed the most ubiquitous type of electric teapot used in the UK (for environmental reasons). One would think if someone got between the Brits and their tea, they would have their own version of the Boston Tea Party going. Americans might say, "Now you know how we felt." :)
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 04:42:27 PM »
Not sure getting mixed messages from friends over there but if the answer is yes I suspect what rooster said will come to pass.

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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 05:05:16 PM »
I hope it's yes, but probably not with hellish riots.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 05:48:34 PM »
Funny, one of the things I heard a couple of days ago is that the EU commission has just outlawed the most ubiquitous type of electric teapot used in the UK (for environmental reasons). One would think if someone got between the Brits and their tea, they would have their own version of the Boston Tea Party going. Americans might say, "Now you know how we felt." :)

Roughly speaking, due to the 240V thing, a UK kettle could be approximately twice as powerful as a US one.  As a result, think of a tea/coffee machine that can be ready to brew in less than half the time.

The problem I have with it is that I think that for such devices reducing the power it can draw will actually result in MORE energy being used - because as it heats, more heat is lost to the environment, which means you have to replace it.  The longer it takes to boil(for tea), the more energy it will use.  Maybe have them put a timer or a thermostat on it, but making it take longer also means people are more likely to leave it alone while they do something else, which again means maintaining the heat longer as they take longer to get back to it.  Summary:  They're being as stupid as the EPA is about gas cans.

Also, you'll see them going to US style - using the relatively inefficient but higher burners on the stove to get boiling water faster.


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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 06:00:43 PM »
Why do you hate rich people?


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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 07:16:58 PM »
Doesn't look good for the Brexit.

Surprisingly (to me) England looked to opt out but Scotland voted so overwhelmingly to stay in and that may have made the difference.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2016, 07:56:15 PM »
Roughly speaking, due to the 240V thing, a UK kettle could be approximately twice as powerful as a US one.  As a result, think of a tea/coffee machine that can be ready to brew in less than half the time.

The problem I have with it is that I think that for such devices reducing the power it can draw will actually result in MORE energy being used - because as it heats, more heat is lost to the environment, which means you have to replace it.  The longer it takes to boil(for tea), the more energy it will use.  Maybe have them put a timer or a thermostat on it, but making it take longer also means people are more likely to leave it alone while they do something else, which again means maintaining the heat longer as they take longer to get back to it.  Summary:  They're being as stupid as the EPA is about gas cans.

Also, you'll see them going to US style - using the relatively inefficient but higher burners on the stove to get boiling water faster.


but but but, all the extra heat will scorch the water, then you have to dump it out and start over- wasting both water and electricity!!!!111
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2016, 10:18:25 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/eu-referendum-results-live-brexit-most-likely-outcome-says-leadi/

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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2016, 10:19:38 PM »
Win or lose, that looks to be a very close vote!
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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2016, 10:22:55 PM »
Wow. Keeping my fingers crossed that I was wrong. Might have to stay up past my bedtime tonight.  :laugh:
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2016, 10:23:57 PM »
Win or lose, that looks to be a very close vote!

My predictions continue to be much more pessimistic for Remain than the betting markets, though they seem to be in between estimates from Michael Thrasher and JP Morgan.
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Re: British exit of EU guesses
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2016, 10:26:36 PM »
Doesn't look good for the Brexit.

Surprisingly (to me) England looked to opt out but Scotland voted so overwhelmingly to stay in and that may have made the difference.

Turnout in Scotland has been very low though, so the Remainers are counting on London to save them. We will see. It's 6.1m leave to 5.8m remain atm.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2016, 10:27:32 PM »
BBC has a constantly updating ticker on top that is more current than the WSJ. http://www.bbc.com/news
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2016, 10:31:17 PM »
Another good counter. Showing Leave with %51.5.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2016, 10:45:19 PM »
8.2m leave 7.6m remain.
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« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2016, 10:55:07 PM »
Another good counter. Showing Leave with %51.5.
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