how ,many cops were there? and would we be too bold to inquire as to your occupation and experience subduing folks? grown ups i mean
Between three and five depending on when in the incident you look:
I've worked as a bouncer for 10 years, have subdued (in some cases cuffed and handed over to law enforcement) countless actual grown-ups, most that were drunk and angry, in addition I've been trained by the Army for prisinor taking, searching, and transport, and I'm a Combatives Instructor. All of that was on grown ups too. Those LEO's could have subdued him without the Taser, they tased him because it was easyier. I know you've been beaten down in the past C&SD, but there are better, non-taser, non-nightstick, ways to subdue people being taught now. Taser's are used because they are the
easiest form of pain comliance, not the
best.
And once again you drag us way off topic.
On the BART Shooting:
I'd be willing to postulate that he thought he was going for his Taser, and didn't relize it was a gun untill it was too late. I'm not convinced I belive that, but I'll give him the benifit of the doubt till there's evidence to the contrary.
He still was grossly negligent and that resulted in the death of an unarmed man. That's the officer's BEST case scenario. I really think he should be tried for murder. Not first degree, I don't see pre-meditation here, but definatly murder.
On the officer's statement, he might well have 5 days by union rules, but it was a bad plan to take them in this case. He might just be tramatized, and trying to cope, but what it looks like from the outside is the cops are taking time to get their story straight, and start a cover up. In a case that's going to be as emotionally and racially charged as this on obviously will be, the Transit Athourity should be bending over backward for the apperance of transparancy, not the appearence of closing ranks.