Not even for boobies

[vaskidmark]

http://www.abc2news.com/dpp/news/national/million-moms-march-set-for-friday

As many mommies as they can get will be marching in DC today in objection to harassment over breast feeding.  While not specifically mentioned, one suspects that actual breast feeding will take place during the march.

Not even the possibility of seeing boobies will get me voluntarily into DC.

Now, the big question is, how much coverage will TV give to the march?

stay safe.

[zahc]

Although I expect their movement will go overboard as usual, including advocating special interest laws that actually reduce freedom, I support their cause in principle. It seems like I see dozens of breasts a day; I think women should be completely free to use them for their intended purpose, period.

Sexual mores in America just seem to be getting wonkier all the time. At church the other day a 1-year-old baby spilled massive amounts of sauce down the front of her shirt. Her mother was trying to wipe it up and suggested just taking the shirt off--it's plenty warm. She said "maybe if it was a boy baby". This is a pre-toddler. I would have ridiculed her, but she probably has a legitimate fear of being accused of child porn.

[Fitz]

Although I expect their movement will go overboard as usual, including advocating special interest laws that actually reduce freedom, I support their cause in principle. It seems like I see dozens of breasts a day; I think women should be completely free to use them for their intended purpose, period.

Sexual mores in America just seem to be getting wonkier all the time. At church the other day a 1-year-old baby spilled massive amounts of sauce down the front of her shirt. Her mother was trying to wipe it up and suggested just taking the shirt off--it's plenty warm. She said "maybe if it was a boy baby". This is a pre-toddler. I would have ridiculed her, but she probably has a legitimate fear of being accused of child porn.

This.

My wife is paranoid about this stuff with our toddler (female).

I have no problem letting a baby run around for a bit with no shirt.

We're entirely too sex-paranoid in america.

[makattak]

This.

My wife is paranoid about this stuff with our toddler (female).

I have no problem letting a baby run around for a bit with no shirt.

We're entirely too sex-paranoid in america.

Are you saying your wife is sex paranoid? Does she actually think your daughter was in danger of child molesters when she makes those choices?

Or are you instead pointing out that we are "meddling neighbors/passersby with the backing of lawyers and an intrusive nanny-state paranoid?"

[Fitz]

Are you saying your wife is sex paranoid? Does she actually think your daughter was in danger of child molesters when she makes those choices?

Or are you instead pointing out that we are "meddling neighbors/passersby with the backing of lawyers and an intrusive nanny-state paranoid?"

No, my wife is paranoid of neighbors, nosy busybodies, cops having a problem, etc.

[makattak]

No, my wife is paranoid of neighbors, nosy busybodies, cops having a problem, etc.

Exactly. I very much doubt most of America is "sex-paranoid". We are "government paranoid."

[Fitz]

Exactly. I very much doubt most of America is "sex-paranoid". We are "government paranoid."

I think you're wrong.

Freedom loving individuals aren't sex paranoid.


A TON of america is. Most of america don't think like we do. How else would the government etc  have any way into the issue?  Unless it's gay sex, that is. Then it's wrong to say you don't want to see it on main street. Lol

[Perd Hapley]

If I don't think breast-feeding is a legitimate exception to public nudity laws, does that make me a misogynist?

Or is it when I support the cause and stare at the nursing mothers?

[Tuco]

...I think women should be completely free to use them for their intended purpose, period.... .

Do you mean there should be no issue over using breasts for their intended purpose (with which I agree);  or that breasts should be used only and exclusively for their intended purpose (with which I disagree).

And Fistful, your beliefs don't make you a misogynist, they make you a misopedist.
Why do you want to starve innocent babies?

[Perd Hapley]

And Fistful, your beliefs don't make you a misogynist, they make you a misopedist.
Why do you want to starve innocent babies?

Probably because my mother wasn't allowed to breast feed me in public, with her bosoms all on display and stuff. It scarred me for life.

[zahc]

It's odd that we don't want "children" to see bare breasts, until they are old enough, or over 18 or whatever. I guess the idea is that until they get old enough, they are too immature to be exposed to bare breasts, and seeing them might scar them. Unless they are really young, in which case they are allowed to see them and even feed off them. So kids can handle breasts ok from birth up until they are weaned, then once they are weaned they are to be protected from breasts because they will be scarred by being exposed to them, until they are old. Very strange.

[Perd Hapley]

It's odd that we don't want "children" to see bare breasts, until they are old enough, or over 18 or whatever. I guess the idea is that until they get old enough, they are too immature to be exposed to bare breasts, and seeing them might scar them. Unless they are really young, in which case they are allowed to see them and even feed off them. So kids can handle breasts ok from birth up until they are weaned, then once they are weaned they are to be protected from breasts because they will be scarred by being exposed to them, until they are old. Very strange.

I don't get that, either. The whole idea that casual sex and indiscriminate nudity is bad for children, but OK for grown-ups. So Miley Cyrus has to be all sweet and virginal until she gets to be about 18 or 20 or so, and then it is perfectly honorable and good for her to dress or behave scandalously.

[Tuco]

How do you make the jump from breastfeeding to casual sex?

[Perd Hapley]

I presume the "harassment" of which they complain has to do with being asked not to bare their breasts in public. And as zahc was saying, there's a curious idea that it's OK for adults to look at the bare breasts of random strangers. The attitude that it's also OK for adults to have sex willy-nilly is part of the same cultural trend.

Does that explain it?

[Balog]

I presume the "harassment" of which they complain has to do with being asked not to bare their breasts in public. And as zahc was saying, there's a curious idea that it's OK for adults to look at the bare breasts of random strangers. The attitude that it's also OK for adults to have sex willy-nilly is part of the same cultural trend.

Does that explain it?

Have you ever actually seen a woman breastfeeding?

[AmbulanceDriver]

Balog, there's breastfeeding, and there's breastfeeding.   I've seen women who, while breastfeeding in public, are discreet.  Even if they don't use a blanket or some other type of cover to be more discreet (which all of my sis-in-laws w/ children do), they are at least somewhat conscious of the fact that maybe everyone doesn't wanna see their breasts, and maybe they don't want everyone to see them either.   I've also run in to the opposite.  Saw one lady just about take her top completely off to breastfeed her child in public.  Not only that, but she exposed her breast, then made sure the kid was in position to actually feed.  Once the kid was done feeding, she took a rag, cleaned the kid's face, checked a couple of other things, and then covered herself back up. 

I have no problem with breastfeeding in public.  I have a problem with the people who seem to think it's an excuse to be topless in public. 

[Balog]

So you want to empower the cops to regulate how a woman can feed her baby in public? How would you draw that legislation up, I wonder? God forbid anyone should react to the sight of something they don't want to see by, you know, not looking at it.

[Fitz]

Why is a breast considered something that can't be seen in public?

After all, men can bare theirs just fine, no worries. Put a bit more fat and mammary gland on it and suddenly it's obscene?


Jeez

[Perd Hapley]

Have you ever actually seen a woman breastfeeding?

Yes. Why?

So you want to empower the cops to regulate how a woman can feed her baby in public? How would you draw that legislation up, I wonder? God forbid anyone should react to the sight of something they don't want to see by, you know, not looking at it.

God forbid we have laws against public indecency. Oh wait. We do. Are police not already empowered to regulate toplessness, or was I misinformed?

[Tallpine]

Are police not already empowered to regulate toplessness, or was I misinformed?

Police regulate all sorts of things than don't need to be regulated 

[Perd Hapley]

Why is a breast considered something that can't be seen in public?

After all, men can bare theirs just fine, no worries. Put a bit more fat and mammary gland on it and suddenly it's obscene?

Of course. Are you new to planet Earth? How do you pretend not to understand this?

If it helps you, though, I find male toplessness to be questionable, as well. Definitely something we should look into regulating.

[Balog]

You make no distinction between toplessness and breastfeeding. Of course not.

[Tallpine]

I find male toplessness to be questionable, as well. Definitely something we should look into regulating.

Especially when combined with fat and mammary gland 



What about cleavage...?  Do you think that we should look into that     

[MechAg94]

Most women I have ever seen breast feeding were making a reasonable effort to cover themselves and there was no problem.  I was always curious just what these women were doing when they were hassled by police.  

[MechAg94]

Especially when combined with fat and mammary gland 



What about cleavage...?  Do you think that we should look into that     

Yes, regulate those loose sweaters.  Women wearing them can't bend over.   

I would agree that some women expose so much cleavage it is worse than if they were modestly breast feeding. 

Sounds like an issue to be solved at the local level where it already is dealt with for the most part.