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fAkeTF
« on: November 11, 2011, 03:59:14 PM »
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8427953


Masked criminals pretending to be ATF agents burst into a home in Houston, TX in a 1:30AM home invasion.

Best Defense?

IMO, live a clean life, and keep an automatic rifle handy and the have will and training to use it forcefully to stop all threats that enter your home.  Then investigate after the fact.  When your door is kicked down at o-dark-thirty, don't give anyone "the benefit of the doubt."   [ar15]

Encourage your local PD and Sheriff to endorse similar talking points, and to abandon no-knocks.

The feds will stop, soon enough, and once the feds stop, the criminals will stop too.
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 05:26:11 PM »
I thought it said they didn't break in, someone opened the door, was shot, then the fakes entered at 1:30 AM. 
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 05:52:30 PM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on November 11, 2011, 05:26:11 PM
I thought it said they didn't break in, someone opened the door, was shot, then the fakes entered at 1:30 AM. 
Correct! The door was answered, not 'kicked down'. No 'benefit of doubt' given here.

Endorse what 'talking points'?
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2011, 07:26:40 PM »
Answering the door at 1.30 am  ???

 ;/

I might get up and yell down from an upstairs window  >:D
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 08:54:26 PM »
It says he was shot through the door when he refused to let them in.  Not really sure if he opened it or not.
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 11:03:38 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on November 11, 2011, 07:26:40 PM
Answering the door at 1.30 am  ???

 ;/

I might get up and yell down from an upstairs window  >:D

While covering the front door with the 12ga.
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 08:32:31 AM »
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 09:59:43 AM »
Quote from: seeker_two on November 12, 2011, 08:32:31 AM
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....

Just get a regular AR.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 04:55:04 PM »
Quote from: JamisJockey on November 11, 2011, 11:03:38 PM
While covering the front door with the 12ga.

AK is better  ;)
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2011, 06:56:46 PM »
Quote from: Fly320s on November 12, 2011, 09:59:43 AM
Quote from: seeker_two on November 12, 2011, 08:32:31 AM
The more stories I read like this....the more motivated I am to get an AR-15 pistol as my bedside gun....

Just get a regular AR.

Need something short d/t hallways & corners in my house....if I need something in a full-sized rifle, I'm going for something a lot more powerful....like a .308....
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2011, 08:51:37 PM »
Quote from: Tallpine on November 12, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
AK is better  ;)

You could have both and use a Saiga 12.
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 07:55:28 AM »
You know, I'm kind of surprised some defense lawyer's association hasn't created a nationwide database of all reported instances of FAKE police invading a residence . . . it seems that such a database, listing many, MANY instances of FAKE cop invasions would be a very useful tool at trial in the event something goes wrong (or right?) when REAL cops stage a no-knock, especially if they hit the wrong place?

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, how was my client to know he wasn't the target of a criminal home invasion, when all these incidents of home invasions by fake police (show list) have been reported in his and adjacent states?"
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 10:00:38 AM »
how many is many?
you think the defense bar wouldn't if they could? if it was viable?
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2011, 10:59:51 AM »
Quote from: makattak on November 12, 2011, 08:51:37 PM
You could have both and use a Saiga 12.

With a big ass drum magazine? Want.
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Re: fAkeTF
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2011, 11:15:27 AM »
Quote from: Tallpine on November 12, 2011, 04:55:04 PM
AK is better  ;)
With a 40 round mag full of soft points.
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