Anybody using the Pine email client?

[garrettwc]

I downloaded it and am giving it a try on my POP3 account. Looks pretty good to an old command prompt guy.

Only trouble is I'm having trouble with configuration. I want to set it where it will leave my emails on the server so that if I decide to delete it I can still download them to my main email program.

Any idea how I can do this?

[Sindawe]

Try this, section 9.3. http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html  I think with that, you can see whats in the mail while leaving it on the server.

If it works, I'll only bill you my standard consultation fee since I don't use Pine myself.  Oh, BTW, whats a "command line"? : neener :

[garrettwc]

Thanks Sindawe, you got me on the right page. It was all the way at the bottom in configuration and technical notes. working fine now.

[lee n. field]

Oh, BTW, whats a "command line"? : neener :

The edge we old farts have over the mouse babies.

see also http://www.insecure.org/stf/scoville_unix_as_literature.txt

[Sindawe]

The edge we old farts have over the mouse babies.

: rolleyes :

[cosine]

The edge we old farts have over the mouse babies.

Hey! I vaguely remember using command prompts on my dad's computers when I was three or four!

[matis]

Scoville's article was fantastic!

I'm an old DOS guy myself, although never very expert.


It's been years since I've repeated this, but my constant compaint was:

"DOS does exactly what you tell it to; Windows does what IT wants!"


Scoville sheds even more light on this frustration.

And his wondeful way of putting things illuminates his point.


Thanks, Lee N Field.


matis

[Ben]

Wow, Pine. That brings back some old Sun Sparcstation memories.

[garrettwc]

Wow, Pine. That brings back some old Sun Sparcstation memories.

I can do better than that. I can remember using a Sperry Rand terminal to access a computer that would have taken up half my highscool gym.

[Sindawe]

Here we go, the old timers are starting to one up each other with tales of the old, huge hardware they used to use.  I wonder who's gonna be first with the comment about programming with a stack of punch cards?

[garrettwc]

I wonder who's gonna be first with the comment about programming with a stack of punch cards?

You forgot to mention it was in COBOL.

[Ben]

I can remember using a Sperry Rand terminal to access a computer that would have taken up half my highscool gym.

Amateur! I used to play Hunt the Wumpus on a rolled paper terminal. And punchcards made keeno paper footballs.

PS -- Admittedly I did this in High School. They had real live monitors by the time I started working for a living.

[garrettwc]

PS -- Admittedly I did this in High School. They had real live monitors by the time I started working for a living.

IBM debuted the first PC the year I graduated.

[RadioFreeSeaLab]

I grew up on an Apple IIe and a Mac Plus...so I guess I'm not that old.  I do enjoy a nice command line interface, though.

[One of Many]

My first programming class at the university was Fortran IV, and we submitted jobs as stacks of punched cards; then waited several hours for the printouts to be placed at the pickup window.

One of my lab classes had a minicomputer; it was 6 ft high, and about 1.5 wide by 2 ft deep.  To program this computer, you entered a bootstrap program by setting toggle switches, then running the bootstrap program allowed use of a papertape reader to enter more complicated programs; output was LED panels, and maybe papertape or printout (memory begins to fail me here).

Computers have come a long way in the last 35 years.

[roo_ster]

If pine does not work for you, you might want to try out mutt.

[Nathaniel Firethorn]

I can remember when men were REAL men and computers were REAL computers.

We didn't need no stinking bits. We used rocks instead.

For the first five years of my career, I wasn't allowed to use any ones. All we had were zeroes.

And punch cards? It was like Christmas when we got to use a Model 29 card punch. Before that, we cut the holes out with blunt scissors. And if we messed one up, we glued it back together.

GUIs? Feh. Greasy kid stuff. Real men program right down to the bare metal.

- NF