McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group

[Liberty.45ACP]

McCain to attend convention of 'reconquista' group

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/PressReleases/6dfbbff2-9e17-4dd1-b2a1-87e4287e69fb.htm
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63522

Republican presidential candidate launches Spanish campaign website
Posted: May 05, 2008
10:38 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON  Sen. John McCain, the de facto Republican presidential nominee, announced today he will attend the national convention of La Raza, a radical Hispanic lobby tied to the movement to reconquer the Southwestern U.S. that was part of Mexico before the Mexican-American War that ended in 1848.

The convention will be held in San Diego July 14.

Though La Raza bills itself as a civil rights organization, the group's name literally means "The Race."

La Raza was condemned in 2006 by Rep. Charles Norwood, R-Ga., as a radical "pro-illegal immigration lobbying organization that supports racist groups calling for the secession of the western United States as a Hispanic-only homeland."

Norwood has called on La Raza to renounce its support of the Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan  which sees "The Race" as part of an ethnic group that one day will reclaim Aztlan, the mythical birthplace of the Aztecs. In Chicano folklore, Aztlan includes California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas.

McCain, who steadfastly opposed efforts to build a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border and supported legislation to permit illegal aliens to remain in the U.S., also announced the launch of his campaign's Spanish language website.

The announcements came on Cinco de Mayo, the day commemorating an 1862 battle fought by Mexican troops.

"Today, we join together to remember the sacrifice that these Mexican patriots endured, as well as the struggles of all those around the world striving for freedom," said McCain in the statement. "We recognize as well the important friendship that exists between our country and Mexico, and celebrate the many contributions Mexican-Americans have made to our society, culture, security and economy."

[Manedwolf]

La Raza is, IMO, a terrorist group.

As I said, this election is between "sucks" and "sucks a lot more". Oh well.

[AZRedhawk44]

"Today, we join together to remember the sacrifice that these Mexican patriots endured, as well as the struggles of all those around the world striving for freedom," said McCain in the statement. "We recognize as well the important friendship that exists between our country and Mexico, and celebrate the many contributions Mexican-Americans have made to our society, culture, security and economy."

Why do I care at all, as an American Patriot, about any fight the Mexicans and the French had back in 1862?

Why is John McCain so enamoured with Mexican terrorist groups that he wants to "remember the sacrifice [of] these Mexican patriots"?  What does Aztlan and La Raza have to do with Mexican nationalism?  La Raza wants to take land from Mexico, too, to create their pet Aztlan.

They are the Palestinian trash of the Western Hemisphere.

ETA:  Edited so the great powerful Mike Irwin does not visit his wroth upon me for using a nickname on a political candidate.

[Manedwolf]

The next four years are going be either stupid or terrifying. Those are the only choices we get.

[El Tejon]

Did not read article.  Too busy oil guns, loading mags and digging tunnels.

Mane, I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right.

[Sergeant Bob]

Why is Juan McCain so enamoured with Mexican terrorist groups that he wants to "remember the sacrifice [of] these Mexican patriots"?

I like it!

He is nothing but a hoebag.

[Waitone]

And so it begins. . . . . .

[longeyes]

Hey, if they're God's children there's room for them in McCain's tent.

When "welcoming" begins to mean the surrender of all principles, all bets are off.

[Perd Hapley]

Why do I care at all, as an American Patriot, about any fight the Mexicans and the French had back in 1862?

Folks like it fine around here.  Same reason we all care so much about an English missionary to Ireland (St. Patrick).  'Nother excuse to party.   

[De Selby]

La Raza is, IMO, a terrorist group.

As I said, this election is between "sucks" and "sucks a lot more". Oh well.

A terrorist group?

How many people have been killed by La Raza?  Can anyone name its most infamous acts of terrorism?

I don't like it either, because I don't like the politics of race, but I have a hard time seeing how La Raza is anything other than American.  And terrorist? 

How does an organization become a terrorist organization without actually committing a single act of terrorism?

[seeker_two]

Remind me....Why do we want to vote for this guy?

[Manedwolf]

Remind me....Why do we want to vote for this guy?

Because the likely alternative would make us NEED our emergency food stores and guns.

[MicroBalrog]

Remind me....Why do we want to vote for this guy?

Because the likely alternative would make us NEED our emergency food stores and guns.

...look, I understand that the Democrats are slightly worse than McCain if your key issue is the zOMG HOMELAND SECURITY.

But are they really that worse than a guy who, according to YOU, attends the meetings of a terrorist organization?

[Manedwolf]

Remind me....Why do we want to vote for this guy?

Because the likely alternative would make us NEED our emergency food stores and guns.

...look, I understand that the Democrats are slightly worse than McCain if your key issue is the zOMG HOMELAND SECURITY.

But are they really that worse than a guy who, according to YOU, attends the meetings of a terrorist organization?

Attending the meeting of one is nowhere near as bad as Obama, who is friends with one of the Weathermen, whose preacher is a hate-fiilled radical black separatist, whose father was a frighteningly extreme "seize from the rich" Marxist. Obama himself is a hardcore left socialist who truly wants to bring all that failed garbage back from the past and try it all over again. And he wants to disarm the law-abiding, which would put them at the mercy of the lawless and cause a massive wave of crime only exacerbated by a repeat of failed socialist economic policies trashing the economy and an empty suit in the oval office. 

I'm sorry, but this is a point where you're not here, you ARE a foreigner, and you're overstepping the boundary of being able to understand what "America" is all about.

Live here for a good long while, take the oath of citizenship, then you can understand. Until then, I have to be honest, you're kinda coming off like the people on the BBC who try to debate American politics. You can't understand unless you're here.

[MicroBalrog]

So, once you say something about Middle-Eastern politics, and the evil of OMG ISLAM, am I allowed to use that argument right back?

Really, really, this is what an ad hominem is.

[Manedwolf]

So, once you say something about Middle-Eastern politics, and the evil of OMG ISLAM, am I allowed to use that argument right back?

Really, really, this is what an ad hominem is.

Actually, I only care about Middle Eastern politics because they tend to leak out and blow up stuff elsewhere. Like, here. Which is what 9/11 was. If Middle Eastern politics stayed in the Middle East, I could care less how often Islamic factions blew each other up. I'd care about as much as I did about tribal warfare in Africa, which is...none.

If I ever argued about internal politics of Israel, which party was which, which I never do, because it's not my country and I don't pretend to understand the political machinations, then your argument would have merit. But I don't. I never have. So your argument makes no sense, and your claims of an ad hominem are silly.

[MicroBalrog]

An ad hominem is an attempt to prove that an argument is bogus because the person uttering it is somehow unqualified to utter it, rather than attacking an error in the argument itself.

[Manedwolf]

Where did that definition come from? Cite the source for your definition, please.

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
ad ho·mi·nem    Audio Help   /æd ˈhɒmənəm‑ˌnɛm, ɑd-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ad hom-uh-nuhm‑nem, ahd-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective
1.   appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2.   attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

[MicroBalrog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

"An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the man", "argument against the man") consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the person making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim".

[Manedwolf]

Wikipedia is not accepted as a viable citation source by any university or published media. Or by myself. Cite it on a paper and it'd get thrown back at you by any profs I'd ever had.

Anyone can make up their own junk and post it at any time. It's why I cite published dictionaries and journals that have been subject to editors and fact-checking before publishing. Definitions of terms have been agreed upon by a great many people before publishing in a dictionary, not just one blogger who decided to redefine a term and hit "submit".

[MicroBalrog]

Wikipedia is not accepted as a viable citation source by any university or published media.

 Cite it on a paper and it'd get thrown back at you by any profs I'd ever had.

That's news to me. The university which I attend accepts Wikipedia as a source.

[Glock Glockler]

Micro,

Maned is correct on this one, him and I are both on the ground here in the same state and see what's going on.  If you believe in freedom it's plain to see that Obama is by far the worst candidate running, and as much as I detest McCain he's no where near the threat Obama is. 

[MicroBalrog]

Micro,

Maned is correct on this one, him and I are both on the ground here in the same state and see what's going on.  If you believe in freedom it's plain to see that Obama is by far the worst candidate running, and as much as I detest McCain he's no where near the threat Obama is. 

Nobody is contesting that Obama sucks.

[Glock Glockler]

Obama does indeed suck, and he also sucks WAY worse than McCain. 

[seeker_two]

Obama does indeed suck, and he also sucks WAY worse than McCain. 

So.....the qualification for POTUS is now being the person that sucks the LEAST?......

....at least it rules out Lewinski.......