Presidential race influencing gun sales across the country

[French G.]

You all seem to be assuming that, in an Obama presidency, the rifles you own will be grandfathered. What if they were not?

What rifles? New avant garde sport, rifle fishing for carp. Durn thing swam under the boat and with my perfect follow through I ran half a mag on full auto into the hull. Had all my guns with me, lost everything, sank like a rock. 

Seriously I would hope for massive non-compliance. None of our centerfire rifles are safe in a perfect gun grabber's British wet dream but I think that such a ban is immediately unlikely. Politicians lose their seats and anyone charged with enforcing "turn 'em all in" has some serious reservations about their new job being known to the public. I think the first ban if one came would be similar to '94, then there would be a registration push such as California did, then a turn them in or NFA type papering scheme. If you don't have anything prior to the registration or turn in phase you are SOL. If you do you can make decisions about how compliant you want to be. I think Heller helps. By math if you figure there are 80 million gun owners in the country if even 800,000 somewhat resist and 80K really resist it will make any outright ban pretty dicey.

On the ARs I don't like bling either. 20" A2 configuration with ACOG in the carry handle and some spray paint is it for me.

[Scout26]

What rifles I own?

You lose yours in a tragic boating accident also ??

[The Annoyed Man]

Mine are going to be lost in a terrible Constitution-defending accident.

I don't own a boat.

(EDIT: I really hope it doesn't come to that.)

[MechAg94]

I picked up some debt when I bought my HD TV and had some dental bills come in.  Had to sell some stuff......


I don't like a lot of bling on the AR, but I do like the flat top.  My 20" Armalite is a flattop.  I have a carry handle attachment, but I never use it.  A red dot with a buis is preferred. 

If it gets really bad, I should soon receive a Fulton Armory scout mount for my Garand. 

[French G.]

Uhhhhh, an oddball firearm that doesn't have plentiful ammo available is useless.  If you think you're gonna stock everything you might need,  you might want to re-think your entire 'strategy'

Thought about it pretty hard actually. 4 K-31s, 1200 rounds of ammo, more new reloadable brass, takes .308 projectiles, have press. If I loan a rifle out I can limit the ammo supply handed out and be pretty sure that if allegiances change the loanee will have a club once the two stripper clips are gone. If staying put 1200 rounds and a reloader will take you far. If traveling, 60 rounds better solve your problems or they may be unsolvable. With a hand press and any supply of any other .30 caliber ammunition I can make it go forever. Pull down and recycle. Cheap, accurate and plentiful. The ammo cost is about as cheap as quality .223 is nowadays. Not a primary battery gun but will survive a lot of bans since it is not a self loader.

[French G.]

I don't live where you live, that's part of the strategy. No population centers nearby. Lots of woods close by if I really want to Plan B it.

[wmenorr67]

Wow, nothing like a few key strokes to put this thread back on topic.

As for me, I already have a mini-14, two 10/22's and my Ruger .45.  Have a Para .45 on order that I will pick up when I get home from this two year vacation I have been on.  After that I am looking at an AR variant in 6.8 or 7.62. 

Any ban that goes into place just maybe the beginning of our next civil war.

[Manedwolf]

Interesting trivia note, the bans keep missing strange and rare rifles like the Czech VZ-52/57 rifle, which is a wood-stocked 7.62x39 semiauto with a folding-flush blade bayonet. The original 52 is 7.62x45 and finding ammo is nearly impossible, plus it's highly corrosive.



If you can find one that wasn't eaten by corrosive ammo, might not be a bad investment to have an "off ban" rifle like that. It might be the only sort one can sell as a loophole.

Uhhhhh, an oddball firearm that doesn't have plentiful ammo available is useless.  If you think you're gonna stock everything you might need,  you might want to re-think your entire 'strategy' 

Read more carefully. As I said, the ORIGINAL 52 is an oddball. However, the transitional 52/57 uses 7.62x39 like any AK derivative. They can still be found, and are never on bans because they're relatively unknown.

Uhhhhh, an oddball firearm that doesn't have plentiful ammo available is useless.  If you think you're gonna stock everything you might need,  you might want to re-think your entire 'strategy'

Thought about it pretty hard actually. 4 K-31s, 1200 rounds of ammo, more new reloadable brass, takes .308 projectiles, have press. If I loan a rifle out I can limit the ammo supply handed out and be pretty sure that if allegiances change the loanee will have a club once the two stripper clips are gone. If staying put 1200 rounds and a reloader will take you far. If traveling, 60 rounds better solve your problems or they may be unsolvable. With a hand press and any supply of any other .30 caliber ammunition I can make it go forever. Pull down and recycle. Cheap, accurate and plentiful. The ammo cost is about as cheap as quality .223 is nowadays. Not a primary battery gun but will survive a lot of bans since it is not a self loader.

I am just glad I bought several black lunchboxes of GP-11 when it was cheap, before people realized HEY IT'S MATCH GRADE!!! The stuff is out of control, now. Prvi is about the same as .308 in cost, though.

My K-31 has a Nikon scope on it now, using the St. Marie clamp mount that doesn't hurt the rifle at all. Perfect bolt-action, I think. Though I suppose the Obamaniacs would consider that a "military sniper rifle" or something. And, of course, high powered.

Also, I somehow doubt that hundreds of thousands of veterans, having fought with an M-4 or M-16 for several years, will be okay with being told "Sorry, we know you know the rifle like your own hand and fought for the US with it...you can't have an AR to defend your family with. It's too dangerous."

[French G.]

I think $230 for 480 rounds of high quality .30 caliber ammunition is a screaming deal in today's market. I need to stop buying components and buy more GP-11 before it goes away.

[Manedwolf]

I think $230 for 480 rounds of high quality .30 caliber ammunition is a screaming deal in today's market. I need to stop buying components and buy more GP-11 before it goes away.

When I bought the lunchboxes, it was $79 each. I wish I had bought more. I could have made a decorative wall or something.

[French G.]

Ok fine, I hate you now. I bought a lot of those Portuguese .308 200 rd packs and shot them at $29.99. I have one left. I wish I had a trailer of them with the price they pull now.  Back to the influence of the presidential race, ever gun company CEO better send Bill Clinton really nice cigars or interns, they never dreamed of making money like this before the '94 ban.

[MechAg94]

I bought one of those cases, plus a few 60 round packs.  I don't shoot it much so I have hardly touched it.  I need to shoot some more of the soft point ammo I have to make sure it will be accurate.

[Manedwolf]

They're still the neatest ammo containers I've seen. Just so...Swiss.

Black soft plasticized card or something, waterproof, with a carry handle. Open that, and there's eight fitted bricks of 60 inside, and a strip to pull the first one out so you don't need to dig it out. Each brick unwraps into six neat boxes of ten, all in the same clean white with black, grey and white labels with helvetica font. And every round is sealed at the bullet and base, with a mirrorlike nickel-coated bullet.



Still doesn't look like something from 1978. Looks kinda like one of those BUY GOLD AND SILVER ads, doesn't it?

[MechAg94]

Or maybe just those Mitchell's Mauser ads. 

[Silver Bullet]

Guns are never plain jane.  They're plain Jayne.   

Not all; some are Vera.   

[erictank]

Guns are never plain jane.  They're plain Jayne.   

Not all; some are Vera.   

Only if they're lucky.

Actually, make that: Only if YOU'RE lucky.

[Silver Bullet]

I'm not worried about gun control legislation, anyway.  It's been proven a loser for Democrats.

Doesn't matter; the Dems are still trying.  That's the biggest reason I vote Republican, even though my sentiments are more libertarian.