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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Perd Hapley on January 11, 2017, 10:45:50 PM
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Anyone else being threatened with this, or already seeing it?
It was 71 degrees today (STL), but they're predicting up to a 1/2 inch of ice this weekend.
I'm getting prepared.
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M509a1c1ff1b5ce99bbbaf964fb70c419o0&pid=15.1)
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We already had our first snowpocalypes of the year. It finally all melted today.
The residents of the area seemed to have survived, despite themselves.
I wish you better luck in thinning out the heard.
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We have had three rounds of it since New Years. Haven't had a day above freezing so everything is covered in ice.
I had to drive about 40 miles of I-35 yesterday, didn't get above 25 mph. I'm surprised they didn't shut it down from Hwy 30 to the MN boarder. Freezing rain then water on top ice, no traction or stopping at all.
I couldn't believe how many tractor trailers were in the ditches and medians. They were playing bumper cars with each other, bouncing off bridge abutments. Almost every trailer was ripped open from the collisions and cargo was strewn everywhere. I even saw about 300 yard long stretch of boxed meat that came out of a hole in a reefer then the meat was ran over by a few errant trucks.
Strangely only saw 2 cars in the ditch, the rest were heavily damaged commercial vehicles.
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My wife slipped on our ice-covered driveway yesterday and fractured her humerus at the top of the shoulder. Fortunately, it is a non-displaced fracture, so 4 weeks of sling immobilization should be all that is needed. I will have to rearrange my schedule so that I can drive her to work.
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^ Ick. Too bad. It's surprising what a pain it is to perform certain tasks with one wing in a cast.
"Snow-eater" winds came off the mountains for the last couple of days and melted the big pile of snow they left on my parking space when they plowed.
They were warning about another BMF storm coming, but I see no real indication of it on the weather maps here on the close-to-the-plains. We'll see. I understand the high country is getting pretty fluffed up from snow. Lots and lots and lots of avalanche warnings, practically the whole mountain area of the State. We'll see how many back-country skiers get killed this year.
"Oh, isn't this all so beautiful up here? It's all so peaceful."
"Yes, yesss. I love nature. It would be perfect except for that rumbling noi
Terry, 230RN
REF:
http://avalanche.state.co.us/forecasts/backcountry-avalanche/front-range/
ETA ~12 hrs later: Still a big glob of stuff over the high mountains but only a "chance" of snow hereabouts later this afternoon.
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Was close to 70 here today but below freezing now. Calling for freezing rain from Friday until Monday. Should be interesting.
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76 here Wednesday. Ice storm of doom forecast for the weekend.
I think Friday morning ill go buy 5 gallons of milk, 7 loaves of bread and a roll of toilet paper.
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Going to be mid to high 60s here in DC metro today, after being in the low teens earlier in the week.
Saturday we're supposed to have a wintery mix.
FOAD, Mother Nature/Old Man Winter.
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Saturday we're supposed to have a wintery mix.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-steve-johnson-wintry-mix-talk-20150127-column.html
I've been hearing the term so much in recent years that it now seems almost ordinary, a cliche that weatherpersons cannot wait to trot out. It comes on the heels of such widely used terms as "El Nino," "heat index," "wind-chill factor" and "polar vortex."
Most of those terms, however, are precise and honest in what they describe. "Wintry mix" puts a lace dress on a chunk of wood and asks you to take it to dinner. It is what those in the word business call a euphemism, a nicer way to say something than the thing deserves.
The New Yorker seems to agree.
http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/wintry-mix
I don't think "wintry mix" sounds nice at all. It sounds like a phrase intended to destroy brain cells. Men who have said it report a loss of their man cards until the following spring.
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Was supposed to head to Oklahoma Sunday for the day but with the forecast being what it is, I was told to stay home.
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Supposed to be taking the Scout Troop camping this weekend. It's cabin camping this time, so I'm not worried about being able to keep the Scouts safe/dry/warm. The worry is more about driving home on Sunday. The cabin is at a Scout camp kind of out in the boonies. Roads get bad, it may be really difficult to drive the 90 minutes back to home...
(Put being stuck in a cabin with 20 11-17 year olds for more than 36 hours 60 miles from home on the list of things you don't want to do. Trust me.)
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(Put being stuck in a cabin with 20 11-17 year olds for more than 36 hours 60 miles from home on the list of things you don't want to do. Trust me.)
Kick 'em out. It's good training. It'll put hair on their chests, and so on.
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I had to check my forecast. It is supposed to rain Monday and get all the way down into the 50's Tuesday. Gulf Coast Winter hell I tell ya. =D
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We already had our first snowpocalypes of the year. It finally all melted today.
The residents of the area seemed to have survived, despite themselves.
I wish you better luck in thinning out the heard.
Ours melted yesterday and I head that exact phrasing about it on the radio: "Looks like we're FINALLY seeing the snow melt"
Finally? The snow fell on Saturday. It lasted 4 WHOLE days. How did we ever survive that!?!
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I'm right in the ice storm band too. National weather service issued a winter storm watch, predicting 1/4 to 3/4 inch of ice in Kansas City.
My preparation consisted of making sure my engine driven welder fired up okay (serves as a generator), filling the gas can, and taking a quick once over inventory to make sure I have oil for the saws.
My boss has told us to work from home on Friday.
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Ours melted yesterday and I head that exact phrasing about it on the radio: "Looks like we're FINALLY seeing the snow melt"
Finally? The snow fell on Saturday. It lasted 4 WHOLE days. How did we ever survive that!?!
Meh. My road doesn't actually get cleared by VDot. Getting to drive out first thing in the morning on packed snow/ice 3 and 4 days after the fact, when all the other roads in the area were completely cleared, was not making me happy. I'm surprised it didn't melt simply due to the heat of my bitching. So, the stress on "finally melted" was due to the joy of the fact that I would not be ice skating in my little car the next morning.
It's just not right that the first 3 miles of your commute should take longer than the whole rest of it. :facepalm:
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Kick 'em out. It's good training. It'll put hair on their chests, and so on.
A chunk of flint, a good knife and a Sierra cup each, and let them earn the Wilderness Survival badge.
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Anyone else being threatened with this, or already seeing it?
It was 71 degrees today (STL), but they're predicting up to a 1/2 inch of ice this weekend.
I'm getting prepared.
(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M509a1c1ff1b5ce99bbbaf964fb70c419o0&pid=15.1)
I like that pic. Is it from a video game?
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I like that pic. Is it from a video game?
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http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-winter-edition
Why, yes it is.
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It's just not right that the first 3 miles of your commute should take longer than the whole rest of it. :facepalm:
Welcome to the world of us northern folks.
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Welcome to the world of us northern folks.
But I don't want to live in the world of the northern folks! I like snow that goes away in a timely fashion.
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It's kind of funny to watch the TV weatherman back tracking on all the predictions. They said the NWS posted a winter storm warning until 9:00PM tonight, then pulled it at something like 5:30PM.
Then they started the apoligetics about "Oh well, that's the difference between long term computer models and short term computer models" and blah-blah-blah and a lot of foot-shuffling and hat-holding and silly grinning.
Epitomizes the remark about "If you don't like the weather, wait five minutes."
Reminds me of the legendary weather rock out by Grandpaw's back door. "Rock wet, it's raining, rock dry, it's sunny, rock white, it's snowing."
Terry, 230RN
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Welcome to the world of us northern folks.
She identies as Southern, you cisnorthern snowlord!
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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She identies as Southern, you cisnorthern snowlord!
Jiffy boxed cornbread and I don't care.
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Ice-pock-o-lips ain't supposed to hit here until Sunday Afternoon continuing into Monday. The boys are out of school Monday and Tuesday.
Joy.
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http://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-winter-edition
Why, yes it is.
OK, how about this one?
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It's kind of funny to watch the TV weatherman back tracking on all the predictions. They said the NWS posted a winter storm warning until 9:00PM tonight, then pulled it at something like 5:30PM.
Then they started the apoligetics about "Oh well, that's the difference between long term computer models and short term computer models" and blah-blah-blah and a lot of foot-shuffling and hat-holding and silly grinning.
Epitomizes the remark about "If you don't like the weather, wait five minutes."
Reminds me of the legendary weather rock out by Grandpaw's back door. "Rock wet, it's raining, rock dry, it's sunny, rock white, it's snowing, rock moving, it's windy, rock gone, tornado."
Terry, 230RN
Had to had a couple.
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^
<Montgomery Burns voice> "Ex-celllent."
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So, anyone to the west of me (Ohio) want to report in? Or has the massive amount of ice accumulation knocked out power and internet service to all of you?
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So far Kansas City is still dry. Temp is about 27F. Forecast has the storm delayed a bit, with things starting around 5-6pm.
Road crews have salted already.
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It's just not right that the first 3 miles of your commute should take longer than the whole rest of it.
I don't know; it seems perfectly logical for my 4.5 mile commute to work like that.
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We're getting warnings for Sunday through Monday now. Better check my condiment supply and do the grocery store run.
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We're getting warnings for Sunday through Monday now. Better check my condiment supply and do the grocery store run.
They are warning of a cold front this weekend. High of 41 and a low of 35.
I probably need to build a fire.
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It started raining in the mid-morning. The place where I work opens at 8am. We closed at 10. Which seems kinda lame. On the other hand, things were very slow, and were probably only going to get slower.
Right now, there's a little bit of ice on the road, but it doesn't seem all that bad, at least to me. 'Course, we've got two more days of this stuff in the forecast, so...
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Nothing here yet in the KC area. Looks like they missed the time frame of it starting by about 8 hours or so.
Just saw that the playoff game between the Chiefs and Steelers was moved from noon to 7:20 pm to allow road crews more time to clear roads. Worst of the storm is supposed to be over late morning/early afternoon.
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First round went 10 miles east of here just got some ice on the windows what hit the ground freeze dried.
Went and got 10 more gallons of gas and 5 more gallons of kerosene amd moved wood in the cabin. Should be able to stay warm for days if we get the heavy stuff they are calling for tomorrow.
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Looks like this one is going to miss Kansas City.
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It's kind of funny to watch the TV weatherman back tracking on all the predictions. They said the NWS posted a winter storm warning until 9:00PM tonight, then pulled it at something like 5:30PM.
Then they started the apoligetics about "Oh well, that's the difference between long term computer models and short term computer models" and blah-blah-blah and a lot of foot-shuffling and hat-holding and silly grinning.
What I find amusing is that, when I was a kid back in the 1950s, we were in range of the NBC network TV station out of New York City. Their 11:00 p.m. weatherman (they weren't called "meteorologists" back then) was a guy named Tex Antoine. His shtick was that, while he was talking about the weather, he was drawing a sketch on a large pad on an easel of his weather character, Uncle Weatherbee. Each day's sketch showed Uncle Weatherbee dressed in clothing appropriate for the next day's forecast. I'm pretty sure they didn't have computer modeling back then, but ole' Tex was generally a lot more accurate than all of today's computer-generated forecasts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tex_Antoine
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Looks like this one is going to miss Kansas City.
Going north?
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They missed on this one. Some rain. Temps in the 30s. M minimal icing while camping in Southern Ohio.
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We got a nice picturesque glaze on everything here but nothing serious
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Went to the grocery store to get some veggies to poach the trout I caught through the ice yesterday.
Milk was wiped out, so was all the half and half. Shredded cheese only had a couple packs left. Everything else looked normally stocked.
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Went to the grocery store to get some veggies to poach the trout I caught through the ice yesterday.
Milk was wiped out, so was all the half and half. Shredded cheese only had a couple packs left. Everything else looked normally stocked.
Even the bread and toilet paper?? :lol: The shredded cheese actually makes sense. (any excuse is a good excuse for for nachos)
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We definitely had some ice around here, but it was definitely not the worst we've seen. The temperatures have been oscillating between just below, and just above freezing, so we never got more than a little glazing of ice. We took the dog out for a walk yesterday, and it just felt like a cold, sopping wet blanket wrapped around you.
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Even the bread and toilet paper?? :lol: The shredded cheese actually makes sense. (any excuse is a good excuse for for nachos)
You require an excuse?
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Even the bread and toilet paper?? :lol: The shredded cheese actually makes sense. (any excuse is a good excuse for for nachos)
Bread was 50% normal for 5pm any evening. Didn't go down the paper aisle, but most people in iowa buy TP at big box stores.
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My wife slipped on our ice-covered driveway yesterday and fractured her humerus at the top of the shoulder. Fortunately, it is a non-displaced fracture, so 4 weeks of sling immobilization should be all that is needed. I will have to rearrange my schedule so that I can drive her to work.
Mrs. Nixon did that November 5th. She also cracked the top of the radius. She has just this past week turned the corner on recovery. She was at the ortho on Friday and he gave her orders for physical therapy and orders for the trainers at our gym. The gym is affiliated with and on the grounds of the hospital where she was taken for emergency treatment.
Not on ice though. She stepped off an badly marked curb in a parking garage downtown.
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4:10 AM 16 Jan17...Very light fall of powder onto 1/2"-1" of snow even on the paved areas.
Niiiiice pics, Larry!
I keep those 1-liter packs of powdered milk around, real easy to mix up, and with about 1/4 cup of evaporated milk/liter, is quite passable. Right now I'm running low on coffee, but I have instant and No-Doze pills.
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30 miles south of Minnesota border, we got iced and more coming.
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Ahhhh. Cloud cover near zero% this AM, supposed to hit 45°F by noon.
Got about 2 square feet of un-snow-covered glass on my car facing sunward (east), ought to be able to just slide the snow off'n it by 1PM just from the greenhouse effect and go do some erranding.
It takes most of the dirt and pine pollen with it when I slide the snowpack off. I usually put an old broom on the hood (bonnet) to do this with before a snowfall so I don't even have to open the car door to get it. It just sits there with the broomhandle sticking out so I can just grab it.
Question (metallurgical): I used to pick up the windshield wipers before a snowfall so it's easier to slide the snow off. This puts the wiper springs under some tension while it gets real cold out, as in sometimes down to 0°F or below. Does this kind of "cryo-soaking" for a couple of days affect the springs at all?
I think my wipers have become less effective lately, but I'm not sure if that's because of screwing up the springs under this treatment, or that I just need new wiper blades. (Which I do anyhow, but I wonder about the cold affecting them.)
Terry, 230RN
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Question (metallurgical): I used to pick up the windshield wipers before a snowfall so it's easier to slide the snow off. This puts the wiper springs under some tension while it gets real cold out, as in sometimes down to 0°F or below. Does this kind of "cryo-soaking" for a couple of days affect the springs at all?
I think my wipers have become less effective lately, but I'm not sure if that's because of screwing up the springs under this treatment, or that I just need new wiper blades. (Which I do anyhow, but I wonder about the cold affecting them.)
Terry, 230RN
The cold does not affect the springs, although I'm a little hesitant because you said "at all" ;) (how many significant digits do you mean by that?)
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^"(how many significant digits do you mean by that?)"
Good question, especially since I'm usually the one bitching about indeterminate qualifiers like "reasonable." As in "reasonable gun controls."
I basically mean, "could the apparent loss of effectiveness be due to this level of cryo-soaking?"
I know there's a lot of back-and-forth about springs, as in "does keeping a full magazine affect the springs?" and the sometimes-answer: "No, it's the cycling of the springs that wears them out."
So there's a bit of spring lore/technology that's out of the bounds of my experience, and cryo-soaking at this level is one of them. I do know that "real" cryosoaking (~minus 320°F) relieves some stresses in rifle barrels and tends to make them more accurate, but we're only talking ~0°F here, and I'm sure there's no sharp cutoff where cold affects springs at X°F but not at (X+1)°F.
I do know that military hardware sometimes becomes unworkable in some cold-weather battle scenarios.
Terry, 230RN
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Currently Cloudy and 59F, here in Cincinnati
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Well, I was going to take that segment out and put it in a separate thread, but zxcvbob answered before I could do it, so I left it there.
:)