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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: RoadKingLarry on June 27, 2018, 09:09:09 AM
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The reddest of red states has legalized marijuana.
http://www.newson6.com/story/38516468/sq-788-passes-legalizing-medical-marijuana-in-oklahoma (http://www.newson6.com/story/38516468/sq-788-passes-legalizing-medical-marijuana-in-oklahoma)
I suspect that our legislature will find a way to make it a convoluted, nearly impossible to follow process.
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So are the voting demographics changing or are people just getting sick of the war on drugs stuff? I figure it is mostly the first. However, I think at least part of it is a lot more people have tried marijuana than most think and don't consider it a dangerous drug.
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What's next? Sandals worn on Main Street?
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But white lightnin's still the biggest thrill of all.
:lol:
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The reddest of red states has legalized marijuana.
But not in Muskogee 'cuz Merle Haggard said so.
Brad
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So are the voting demographics changing or are people just getting sick of the war on drugs stuff? I figure it is mostly the first. However, I think at least part of it is a lot more people have tried marijuana than most think and don't consider it a dangerous drug.
I'd tend to say "all of the above"
Alaska legalized mostly because it isn't seen as a dangerous drug and a strong libertarian bent, combined with catching a lot of fence sitters with the promise of tax revenue from it. Given that we were entering a financial crisis at the time due to decreasing oil revenue, the idea of turning the financial cost of prohibition into a revenue stream tempted many. You also had the potheads voting to legalize it, of course. An earlier measure actually failed because the potheads voted against it, because, well, the measure sucked.
Meanwhile, like a decade ago when I was in North Dakota, I learned that something like 80% of the graduating high school class had at least tried MJ. It's definitely not seen as dangerous. Not as dangerous as alcohol and tobacco, in different ways.
edit: Reading up on them talking about "closing" the recreational loophole as seen in California where you just need to find the right doctor, I figure that doing that would only create a "state question" within 4 years or so just completely legalizing it.
And this makes it only FOUR states that don't have some level of legal medical use. Mostly passed by voter initiatives.
I really, really, wonder when the feds will break. I would NOT be surprised if it becomes an election issue next presidential campaign.
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Legalizing, or at least re-scheduling MJ as something besides a schedule 1 substance would be a great legacy item for Trump.
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Legalizing, or at least re-scheduling MJ as something besides a schedule 1 substance would be a great legacy item for Trump.
Mind blown. I hadn't thought of that.
But I don't see it happening either.
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Mind blown. I hadn't thought of that.
But I don't see it happening either.
There was some hope before trump selected Jeff Sessions to the DOJ.
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Legalizing, or at least re-scheduling MJ as something besides a schedule 1 substance would be a great legacy item for Trump.
Do some of those choices allow Big Pharma to use it as a prescription drug?
Just curious. I figured if MJ was ever truly legalized, you would see pills and such using the active ingredient. Given all the hard drugs that are allowed with prescription, I always thought it strange that thc never found its way into prescription drugs.
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^^^ Yes: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-approves-epidiolex-first-marijuana-based-drug-for-seizures/
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^^^ Yes: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-approves-epidiolex-first-marijuana-based-drug-for-seizures/
Good to see.
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Firethorn remarked,
I really, really, wonder when the feds will break. I would NOT be surprised if it becomes an election issue next presidential campaign.
It's still too much of a sunday-go-to-meetin' moral issue with too many sections of the population. You should have heard the screaming that went on when Colorado lawmakers wanted to allow automobile sales on Sunday. And, later, to allow liquor stores to sell that evil demon rum on Sunday.
I really think the message of libertarianism is getting out to the general voting public --as in, "what the hell compelling interest does the State or state have in regulating this-a or that-a?"
Gee, it might even leave the socialist do-gooders with nothing to do except put up traffic lights at every intersection "for the children."
And to satisfy their own do-gooder need to control others. >:D
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I think I remember the same when they got rid of some of the blue laws in Texas. I was young and not paying attention and I remember there was some debate about it. I think people get used to their chains and tend to resist giving them up.
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Just curious. I figured if MJ was ever truly legalized, you would see pills and such using the active ingredient. Given all the hard drugs that are allowed with prescription, I always thought it strange that thc never found its way into prescription drugs.
There's also Marinol. It's an anti-nausea agent, but from what I've read is less effective than vaporizing or smoking actual MJ. Rendering it to pill form for people having extreme trouble keeping anything down isn't as effective as an inhalant. There's also more than just THC in weed, so you may have synergistic effects.
It's still too much of a sunday-go-to-meetin' moral issue with too many sections of the population. You should have heard the screaming that went on when Colorado lawmakers wanted to allow automobile sales on Sunday. And, later, to allow liquor stores to sell that evil demon rum on Sunday.
However, I've noted that there are only four states now without some level of legalized MJ. I'm not going to say that it's going to be a huge issue, or that there won't be people on both sides of the fence. I'm just saying that it could start being a factor.
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Moving it to the same as alcohol would have saved us and made us billions in my lifetime. But I think big pharma was holding out and they have as much pull as big oil.
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I don't know how many times or for how many decades I've said we should deregulate all recreational drugs (except for maybe driving), tax them, and let the Devil, the DA, and Darwin take the hindmost.