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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on July 14, 2019, 03:45:01 PM
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Well, here we go. After Bond 25 (which seems to be heading into "stinker" territory anyway), I'm done. Freakin' SJWs. Make a female secret agent movie if you want. If it's good, I'm down. Gender swapping James Bond is a travesty. I might not even bother with Bond 25.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/james-bond-25-007-lashana-lynch-report
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Have to check off all the SJW boxes for the next OO7.
Female . . . check.
Black . . . check.
LGBTQEIEIO . . . TBD.
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Have to check off all the SJW boxes for the next OO7.
Female . . . check.
Black . . . check.
LGBTQEIEIO . . . TBD.
Global warming . . . check.
Indiscriminate immigration . . . check.
No guns except for "double-0" agents . . . check.
The insider also claimed that the phrase "Bond girls" is now verboten: The females in the spy franchise are now reportedly ordered to be called "Bond women."
What? Not something hip and with-it like "Bond wymyn?"
Terry, 230RN
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Already tons of spy stories about females.
"Atomic Blonde" not good enough?
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https://lithub.com/ian-fleming-explains-how-to-write-a-thriller/
Good things he's dead so he doesn't have to see them utterly destroy his legacy.
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No guns except for "double-0" agents . . . check.
Terry, 230RN
We don't need to bleeding guns, we have Metal Straws!!!!
bob
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Already tons of spy stories about females.
"Atomic Blonde" not good enough?
Some are even based on reality . . .
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Matahariposter.jpg)
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I'm going to wait and see on this one. Article I read said that she is going to be introduced as 007 at the start, as Bond has retired, and Bond is going to come out of retirement because of whatever crisis is afoot. So, if accurate, she's not the new Jamie Bond or such, she's a different agent that just inherited the number.
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RIP Star Wars
RIP Ghostbusters
RIP Star Trek
RIP Batman
RIP MIB
RIP James Bond
Waiting on the Indiana Jones series ruining woke reboot
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Have to check off all the SJW boxes for the next OO7.
Female . . . check.
Black . . . check.
LGBTQEIEIO . . . TBD.
On the last one, I'm sure they'll be some big LGBWTFBBQ moment when actual Bond makes a pass at her. It'll be the big reveal.
No franchise is with a straight white male lead is safe anymore.
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RIP Star Wars
RIP Ghostbusters
RIP Star Trek
RIP Batman
RIP MIB
RIP James Bond
Waiting on the Indiana Jones series ruining woke reboot
You missed the MCU
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Things like this are why I think we need copyright reform, limiting copyright duration to the life at the author at the longest (although I think limiting it to something similar as patents would be better in the long run).
If Bond were now in the public domain because the author passed, this would be a non-troversy. If someone didn't like the way one studio handled it, they could do their own movie that they think sticks more closely to the source material, and then the marketplace could render judgement on who had the right idea.
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RIP Star Wars
RIP Ghostbusters
RIP Star Trek
RIP Batman
RIP MIB
RIP James Bond
Waiting on the Indiana Jones series ruining woke reboot
Nuking the fridge wasn't enough?
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https://lithub.com/ian-fleming-explains-how-to-write-a-thriller/
Good things he's dead so he doesn't have to see them utterly destroy his legacy.
They did that when they picked Roger Moore to play Bond.
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Nuking the fridge wasn't enough?
Passing the torch to HWNDU LaBeouf was enough.
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It looks like the finally managed to find a way to make the series even worse than it was.
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Nuking the fridge wasn't enough?
I give stuff like that a pass because the series has always had silly way over the top stunts. It's it's meat and potatoes. How about being drug behind a high speed truck on gravel for miles and not being turned into hamburger in the original? It's when they start making radical totally unnecessary changes to the character(s) that I consider it dead.
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You missed the MCU
Taking a wait and see on that one. Hopefully they realized Cap Woke is not the way they should be going.
Although the recent comments I've seen about Spiderman possibly going full on flaming gay has got me wondering. The actor, what's is name, has stated he's all for it.
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Taking a wait and see on that one. Hopefully they realized Cap Woke is not the way they should be going.
Although the recent comments I've seen about Spiderman possibly going full on flaming gay has got me wondering. The actor, what's is name, has stated he's all for it.
Also, Captain America's shield has been passed to Sam Wilson.
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Also, Captain America's shield has been passed to Sam Wilson.
I haven't seen it yet. But didn't that happen in the comics? Think I read that somewhere.
Besides, passing on of the mantle is the way it should be done, not rewriting the history to fit a narrative like they did with Ghostbusters 2016 where they acted like the guys never existed. I've said for a while that if they had the girls being the guy's daughters and the guys were passing on the mantle to them it would have been received much somewhat better.
Edit: Somewhat better
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If they do a passing on of the mantle in the new Bond WITHOUT any woke BS then it won't bother me. If it doesn't work then it would be easy enough to do it again,
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Already tons of spy stories about females.
"Atomic Blonde" not good enough?
I'm still fondly remembering Stefanie Powers as April Dancer, "The Girl from U. N. C. L. E." [popcorn]
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-winter-2019-revenue-hits-8-year-low-1187519
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I can't even begin to care who plays James Bond.
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Passing the torch to HWNDU LaBeouf was enough.
I caulk that up to a bad casting choice, happens to the best of them. Besides the studio was hoping he would pull in a younger crowd than that what Ford usually pulls in.
Had he gone Chernobyl level libtard at that point? IIRC he was pretty was keeping his mouth shut at that point or the Hollywood tumor hadn't fully kicked in yet.
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They did that when they picked Roger Moore to play Bond.
I remember Johnny Carson had a skit as Carncac . . .
Answer: Junk Bonds
Question: Describe the last few 007 movies.
They were the ones with Roger Moore.
I'm still fondly remembering Stefanie Powers as April Dancer, "The Girl from U. N. C. L. E."
I remember that . . . also Dianna Rigg as Emma Peel in The Avengers. I think she was preceded by Honor Blackman as Dr. Cathy Gale, but I'm not even sure those early episodes appeared on American TV. More recent spy series with female leads included Piper Perabo as Annie Walker in the show Covert Affairs, and Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow in the show Alias, which I found noteworthy because in nearly every episode, some bad guy snuck up in back of her as she was picking a lock or cracking a safe. :rofl:
Anyway, with plenty of female spies, there's no good reason to mess with 007. :mad:
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I caulk that up to a bad casting choice, happens to the best of them. Besides the studio was hoping he would pull in a younger crowd than that what Ford usually pulls in.
Had he gone Chernobyl level libtard at that point? IIRC he was pretty was keeping his mouth shut at that point or the Hollywood tumor hadn't fully kicked in yet.
Bad casting choice is what I'm talking about. Terrible casting choice. Politics doesn't enter into it. I only refer to the HWNDU stuff because - well, it's just too funny to pass up.
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They are movies. Who cares. [popcorn]
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Local news radio had an interview with Albert Broccoli's daughter, and she had some... definite... things to say about the latest casting choice. As in... Bond is a man. Write roles for women instead of co-opting existing roles.
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They are movies. Who cares. [popcorn]
Yea pretty much, no one is holding a gun to your head making you buy a ticket and watching the movies.
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Yea pretty much, no one is holding a gun to your head making you buy a ticket and watching the movies.
Which is why I said in the OP that I'm not watching any new Bond films. They're free to destroy a franchise, and I'm free to take my money elsewhere.
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The Rageaholic did a good video on it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvSQQSPDObs
TheQuartering also has a good video on it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VP0SCaTaN8
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Which is why I said in the OP that I'm not watching any new Bond films. They're free to destroy a franchise, and I'm free to take my money elsewhere.
Also they for the most part have run out of story lines from the Ian Flemming books.
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RIP Star Wars
RIP Ghostbusters
RIP Star Trek
RIP Batman
RIP MIB
RIP James Bond
Waiting on the Indiana Jones series ruining woke reboot
At this point, I'm perfectly willing to walk away from defaced cultural icons. I don't beep-ing care. Do they realize this?
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Things like this are why I think we need copyright reform, limiting copyright duration to the life at the author at the longest (although I think limiting it to something similar as patents would be better in the long run).
If Bond were now in the public domain because the author passed, this would be a non-troversy. If someone didn't like the way one studio handled it, they could do their own movie that they think sticks more closely to the source material, and then the marketplace could render judgement on who had the right idea.
Disney delenda est. The Mouse must be destroyed.
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One thing to bear in mind is that the Bond series was never meant to be anything but mindless escapism and not to be taken seriously in any way shape or form. Same for Star Wars, The I. Jones moves, Ghostbusters, Batman etc... For the most part they didn't preach or try to shove anything down your throat they just entertained. People primarily go to movies to escape from reality for a couple of hours but Hollywood seems to have largely forgotten that.
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One thing to bear in mind is that the Bond series was never meant to be anything but mindless escapism and not to be taken seriously in any way shape or form. Same for Star Wars, The I. Jones moves, Ghostbusters, Batman etc... For the most part they didn't preach or try to shove anything down your throat they just entertained. People primarily go to movies to escape from reality for a couple of hours but Hollywood seems to have largely forgotten that.
They have not forgotten that. They HATE that.
ANYTHING not relentlessly pushing their agenda must either be destroyed or coopted. Nothing can be allowed outside of leftism.
That is why they are going after these "cultural icons." They will either turn them to their own purposes or destroy them. Either one is a win for them. (And, yes, burn a pile of cash doing it too, but they have money to burn and since they "torment us for our own good [they] will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
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Things you think of while in the shower
1960-early 70s pretty much everything coming out Hollywood were preachy movies.
1975 Jaws comes out and is considered by many the first summer blockbuster. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment.
1977 Star Wars come out of nowhere and blows the box office up. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment and people couldn't get enough of it and then for the next 30+ years movies were for the most part pure entertainment. The MCU until the most recent movies seem to understand this but even it has showed signs of crashing and burning.
Now it seems like they've gone back to the 60s and early 70 and are scratching their heads are why revenue is down. Guess we need the next Jaws and/or SW to make them realized their mistake.
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Also they for the most part have run out of story lines from the Ian Flemming books.
For the most part? They had run through all the book titles years ago. (Including The Spy Who Loved Me, which wasn't even a book, just a short story.
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The ironic thing about Hollywood's hypocrisy (if you are old enough and paid attention) is that Hollywood has promoted the notion of the evil black man; the government as an evil entity; violent, bloody movies in which the heroes are the ones who kill the most using guns.
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They are movies. Who cares. [popcorn]
Yeah, but at least they're not nerd franchise movies.
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They have not forgotten that. They HATE that.
ANYTHING not relentlessly pushing their agenda must either be destroyed or coopted. Nothing can be allowed outside of leftism.
That is why they are going after these "cultural icons." They will either turn them to their own purposes or destroy them. Either one is a win for them. (And, yes, burn a pile of cash doing it too, but they have money to burn and since they "torment us for our own good [they] will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Years ago, my mother used to watch the TV show Designing Women. She stopped when the show began to get "preachy" and after it was cancelled, she saw an interview where the producer said she HAD to make it preachy, because people kept voting the wrong way, e.g., for Republicans.
And of course, as M*A*S*H began to become preachy, it became less funny, and ratings declined. (I found it was easy to figure out when an episode was directed by Alan Alda, because it sucked.) Even Paul Harvey commented on the decline of comedy on the show.
It's been decades since I watched Saturday Night Live, because it's been decades since it was funny. And I haven't tuned in to the Tonight Show since Leno left. (And Leno was no Johnny Carson.) Each case, the shows became relentlessly left wing, and worse, unfunny. I was able to laugh when Johnny Carson played Reagan, because he could poke fun at someone in a comedic way; today's shows are just plain mean spirited.
And . . . C.S. Lewis was right about people who torment us for "our own good" . . . time to send in the robber barons! :rofl:
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Things you think of while in the shower
1960-early 70s pretty much everything coming out Hollywood were preachy movies.
1975 Jaws comes out and is considered by many the first summer blockbuster. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment.
1977 Star Wars come out of nowhere and blows the box office up. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment and people couldn't get enough of it and then for the next 30+ years movies were for the most part pure entertainment. The MCU until the most recent movies seem to understand this but even it has showed signs of crashing and burning.
Now it seems like they've gone back to the 60s and early 70 and are scratching their heads are why revenue is down. Guess we need the next Jaws and/or SW to make them realized their mistake.
Not a bad point. I have tried to watch reruns of The Rifleman and I found it so preachy I couldn't watch it.
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Not a bad point. I have tried to watch reruns of The Rifleman and I found it so preachy I couldn't watch it.
I could never hear the preachy over the rifle shots.... [tinfoil] ..... =D
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And of course, as M*A*S*H began to become preachy, it became less funny, and ratings declined. (I found it was easy to figure out when an episode was directed by Alan Alda, because it sucked.) Even Paul Harvey commented on the decline of comedy on the show.
Found it harder and harder to watch MASH after the third or fourth season or so. Seemed like the point of just about every episode after that was to ram the liberal talking point of the week down your throat. It got unbearable.
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Found it harder and harder to watch MASH after the third or fourth season or so. Seemed like the point of just about every episode after that was to ram the liberal talking point of the week down your throat. It got unbearable.
Same here. I loved the early seasons, but later on - well, "unbearable" is an understatement.
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I'll confess to being a big fan of James Bond. The books and the films. When Dame Judi Dench was cast as M, I recoiled against the casting choice. But I watched and found I enjoyed her in the role.
When Daniel Craig was cast as Bond, I recoiled again. Blonde hair. Muscle bound. Not Bond. But in many ways, he was better than Brosnan, and even more so than Moore.
Now, I'll say again. What I've read is that the film has James Bond retired, and a new agent is assigned the number 007. SHE IS NOT JAMES BOND. Bond comes out of retirement to fight the baddies.
Now, this may be as bad as you all say. Or it may be much ado about nothing. Time will tell. I'll go see the movie when it comes out and let you all know.
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lee n. field said,
At this point, I'm perfectly willing to walk away from defaced cultural icons. I don't beep-ing care. Do they realize this?
No. They don't care about you. They only care about those whom their market research indicates will spend the money to be brainwashed.
Terry
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Taking a wait and see on that one. Hopefully they realized Cap Woke is not the way they should be going.
Although the recent comments I've seen about Spiderman possibly going full on flaming gay has got me wondering. The actor, what's is name, has stated he's all for it.
Now Natalie Portman is the new Thor:
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/natalie-portman-thor-4-love-and-thunder-1203274705/
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Now Natalie Portman is the new Thor:
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/natalie-portman-thor-4-love-and-thunder-1203274705/
To be fair, Jane Foster becoming Thor is a storyline from the comics.
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We need a volunteer to take that hammer away from her for a week every month.