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Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« on: December 07, 2011, 07:18:59 PM »
Wow.  To quote one of the commenters, if I came home to a naked, 300 lb bodybuilder on my porch I'd pretty much just scratch that day as a loss and go have a drink.


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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 07:51:35 PM »
just keep driving. Even if your armed, unless you happen to be carring something massive.

300 pounds of muscle powered by drugs does not go down easy.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 07:52:06 PM »
"22-year-old Ruben Arzu apparently was under the influence of steroids and other drugs, and it took four police officers, two stun gun blasts and four sets of handcuffs to restrain him."

Holy moly, I am surprised they didn't have to just shoot him.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 07:55:18 PM »
"22-year-old Ruben Arzu apparently was under the influence of steroids and other drugs, and it took four police officers, two stun gun blasts and four sets of handcuffs to restrain him."

Holy moly, I am surprised they didn't have to just shoot him.

I'm betting they had 9mm.

Doubt it would do much without a several head shots.

I would think roid rage has simularities with PCP.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 07:57:53 PM »
What caliber for a 300lb roided up & drug fueled bodybuilder? I'm thinking that this might be a scenario where a .44 Magnum might be considered barely enough for self defense :O.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 07:58:37 PM »
"22-year-old Ruben Arzu apparently was under the influence of steroids and other drugs, and it took four police officers, two stun gun blasts and four sets of handcuffs to restrain him."

Holy moly, I am surprised they didn't have to just shoot him.
The homeowners cannot shoot him as it is California - oh, wait, you meant the cops!  =D
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 08:11:27 PM »
Stupid is as stupid does. 
Seriously I don't care if it's a 90 pound naked man on my front porch.
If I see ANY naked person on my front porch I'm not approaching him, I'm calling the police and suggesting a padded van may be in order.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »
I'm betting they had 9mm.

Doubt it would do much without a several head shots.

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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 11:14:32 PM »
I'm betting they had 9mm.

Doubt it would do much without a several head shots.

Maybe it's due to them being Californis LEO's.....but, when I shoot a guy in the head with my 9mm, he tends to notice.....
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 07:56:07 AM »
All I can say is if I can drive away I will.  If not, then I hope I've got something on me that will get his attention. 9mm will do.  I normally carry 38+P.  Either way I'm going to find out how fast my fat butt can run away.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 10:11:25 AM »
1: Get video camera
2: ???????
3: Profit
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 10:30:52 AM »
Also carrying a rifle in the car might not be a bad idea  ;)
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 10:43:54 AM »
All I can say is if I can drive away I will.  If not, then I hope I've got something on me that will get his attention. 9mm will do.  I normally carry 38+P.  Either way I'm going to find out how fast my fat butt can run away.
I would think in a situation like this, you would be better off aiming low for the gut and legs.  At least that might slow him down enough to be less of an immediate danger.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 12:39:31 PM »
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Also carrying a rifle in the car might not be a bad idea

I keep a rifle in my car just in case such a situation arises....and a kukri knife.
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2011, 12:47:18 PM »
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I would think in a situation like this, you would be better off aiming low for the gut and legs.  At least that might slow him down enough to be less of an immediate danger.

9mm? Pfft. Grab a blunt object, a piece of rebar will do just nicely, take a hard swing at the head or knees, he will go down like a ton of Obama if you make contact with either, if he gets a limb in the way to block it, that will get broken, so simply repeat the process.

I swear that people make this a lot more complicated than it needs to be. I think the cops on the scene were the new age type- all high speed low drag until they come across someone that challenges them. I've seen an old school Vietnam Vet cop who couldn't have weighed in at more than 150lbs take down multiple hopped up big brawlers with nothing more than a night stick.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2011, 01:14:08 PM »
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I swear that people make this a lot more complicated than it needs to be. I think the cops on the scene were the new age type- all high speed low drag until they come across someone that challenges them. I've seen an old school Vietnam Vet cop who couldn't have weighed in at more than 150lbs take down multiple hopped up big brawlers with nothing more than a night stick.
They were probably taught to avoid using physical force that leaves bruises (and broken bones) in police academy - otherwise they could get nailed for excessive force or similar.
But yeah. Nobody is immune to being clubbed like a baby seal.


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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2011, 02:05:33 PM »
But yeah. Nobody is immune to being clubbed like a baby seal.

I don't know why, but I almost choked trying not to giggle like a school girl at that.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2011, 02:15:21 PM »
Guys. 300 pounds! Forward momentum and ending up squashed like a cockroach can still hurt you even should he be dead.

(and how many beat cops can make a headshot with their sidearms? Really  ;/ )
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2011, 03:50:24 PM »
What caliber for a 300lb roided up & drug fueled bodybuilder? I'm thinking that this might be a scenario where a .44 Magnum might be considered barely enough for self defense :O.

Agree, I would want a 45-70 in that situation, or shotgun with slugs.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2011, 03:52:35 PM »
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2011, 03:59:34 PM »
As long as the dude was still outside my house, I'd be inclined to call the cops - that's what they're there for.
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2011, 04:17:27 PM »
I'm betting they had 9mm.

Doubt it would do much without a several head shots.

I would think roid rage has simularities with PCP.

My wife the trauma nurse has noticed a trend: the bigger someone is, be it muscle or fat, the more likely they are to survive being shot.  Penetration becomes a Very Big Deal with larger attackers.  I personally met a man who survived being shot with a full mag frmo a Browning High Power: 13 rounds of 9mm goodness didn;t even knock him on his *expletive deleted*ss.  He walked home and called 911.  This guy was really, really fat.  400+ pounds before the shooting, 300lbs after recovery.

Roids are most similar to testosterone, not an hallucinogen.  In the long term, they stimulate muscle recovery.  In the short term, they can increase aggression.  IOW, increase the size of the *expletive deleted*hole both physically and socially.

9mm? Pfft. Grab a blunt object, a piece of rebar will do just nicely, take a hard swing at the head or knees, he will go down like a ton of Obama if you make contact with either, if he gets a limb in the way to block it, that will get broken, so simply repeat the process.

I swear that people make this a lot more complicated than it needs to be. I think the cops on the scene were the new age type- all high speed low drag until they come across someone that challenges them. I've seen an old school Vietnam Vet cop who couldn't have weighed in at more than 150lbs take down multiple hopped up big brawlers with nothing more than a night stick.

Being less susceptible to GSW trauma but still susceptible to blunt force trauma directed at CNS or joints are not mutually exclusive.

The beat cop equivalent of SWATties who futz around in full view of the objective house's front windows and then stack up like a chinese fire drill at the entrance.  The day these jokers go up against a truly dangerous man, half won't make it home that night.



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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 04:39:11 PM »
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My wife the trauma nurse has noticed a trend: the bigger someone is, be it muscle or fat, the more likely they are to survive being shot.

Not exactly astounding.  Don't we use larger calibers on larger wild animals ?  ;)
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Re: Couple attacked by naked 300lb bodybuilder.
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 04:56:33 PM »
Not exactly astounding.  Don't we use larger calibers on larger wild animals ?  ;)

Yep, but every once in a while folk need reminding.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 05:22:54 PM »
Yep, but every once in a while folk need reminding.

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