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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2023, 12:13:01 PM »
Carbon paper was discontinued because it's carbon and is a major cause of globular wormoning. :P :O [tinfoil] :old:

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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2023, 01:57:33 PM »
I'm a retired police officer. I cut my teeth in the "old school" and retired just before the "defund" stuff grew legs.

Early career, in DC, one place I worked, the prosecution report, the infamous PD 163, known informally as the "Dingbat" demanded six copies. The original had to be original front and back.

These Dingbats had carbon paper between sheets. The drill was tear, don't flip, slide aside, flip carbon paper, place on stack.

Really long reports almost always revealed a failure to flip or slide when needed and since the front original didn't include a back original, the Selectric had to be reloaded and the report restarted.

We made progress with computers, but needed the huge floppy disc to be inserted with the form filler program.
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2023, 02:09:57 PM »
The waste manifest sheets have from the local landfill company are "carbon copy" documents with the dot matrix paper strips on the sides that you can tear off.  They don't use an old style carbon sheet, but it is the coating on the back of the sheets.  Since about 4 different people including us have to keep a copy of the paperwork, that is the easiest way to make sure copies are retained. 

Anything more than normal office waste has to have a waste manifest.  My site doesn't normally have anything more than scrap wood or filters. 

I haven't heard of "courtesy copy" either. 
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2023, 02:13:23 PM »
I also have "BCC" on my e-mail, supposedly for "Blind Carbon Copy."  I never use it since I think it's not cricket to include a third party to the exchange without my main addressee knowing about it.

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I'm not clear on why that is.  I had also heard that lumber companies / yards like dot matrix printers as well, and I'm not clear on why that is, either.

I have two functioning ones.

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I have seen bcc: used a lot for distribution emails.  If someone hits "Reply All", that does not pick up the bcc: emails.  I have seen "Reply All" used by idiots to ask questions on distribution emails far too many times.  The most fun is when multiple people start replying to all saying there must be a problem as they shouldn't be getting the replies.   =)
Using bcc also means people getting the email can't see the distribution list (supposedly).
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2023, 05:48:18 PM »


I'm not clear on why that is.  I had also heard that lumber companies / yards like dot matrix printers as well, and I'm not clear on why that is, either.

I have two functioning ones.

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Dot matrix printers are tough and last a long time. Evraz, Rocky Mountain Steel here still uses them, and they are (or were) the largest steel mill west of the Mississippi.  They've been in business since 1880.

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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2023, 06:35:34 PM »

We made progress with computers, but needed the huge floppy disc to be inserted with the form filler program.

Did you have to turn the floppy disc over to type page 2?
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2023, 10:18:57 PM »
Biggest problem with dot-matrices (?? plural??) was the ribbon.  I found I could re-vive ribbons with some judicious squirts of wd-40 In the ribbon case.

One of mine  is an NX-10, I believe the the other is an Epson. I have the manuals for them and AFAIK drivers are available on line.

Wife1 and I went to a World's Fair in Noo Yawk in the early 60s --not sure if we were married or not yet.  The telephone company was just breaking into touch-tone and had a demonstration where you could dial a number on a dial and then on a touchpad  and the machine would time you on both dialing methods.  Touchtone came out on top every time.  I remember wondering what the hell the * and # buttons were for.

They had an offhanded explanation that they were for other functions, and I wondered what those "other functions" were.

And in later years I was constantly frustrated with the fact that "1,2,3" were at the top of the phone dial, whereas I had learned touch-adding on adding machines (and later, calculators) where  the "1,2,3" was at the bottom. Dayamcrapballs!

The Fair also had a booth where you could actually see yourself on Television!  "Come on, honey, let's smooch on Television !"

But she was too shy.

Our number back them was FLushing 3-nnnn  and as a small child, I remember my mother drilling that number into me if I ever got lost. This was even before area codes and if you wanted to dial outside your connectivity area you had to go through an operator.

( =D  An "operator" was a real live person you could actually talk to in English.  There was no "Press 1 for English.... Press 97 for Mesopotamian..."  And "Press zero for a half hour of crappy music specifically designed to get you to hang up in disgust even though your call is important to us....supposedly..."  =D  )

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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2023, 10:38:40 PM »

( =D  An "operator" was a real live person you could actually talk to in English.  There was no "Press 1 for English.... Press 97 for Mesopotamian..."  And "Press zero for a half hour of crappy music specifically designed to get you to hang up in disgust even though your call is important to us....supposedly..."  =D  )


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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2023, 10:44:37 PM »
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2023, 10:51:22 PM »
"And our menu has changed [not!], so be sure to listen carefully to all the prompts before making your selection."

LOL  yeah, I forgot that one.  Whenever I hear "Press two for Spanish, my immediate involuntary response is " Auf Englische, bitte!"  Insensitive of me, wot?

I often let that creep out when I hear foreign lingo out in the world. 

I remember my father telling me that his father would not let German be spoken in the house, ca. 1910 AD. "Ve are Americainischer now und ve vill speak English vie Americanischer," he would imitate his father.  That still makes me laugh when I think of it
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2023, 07:42:36 AM »
Don't get me started on the AT&T Help Desk...

It's outsourced to Bangalore (at least the functions I needed were) and depending on who you get the combination of static on the VOIP line and the accent could make things... difficult.
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2023, 08:14:37 AM »
Don't get me started on the AT&T Help Desk...

It's outsourced to Bangalore

Yeah, I can see why they wouldn't be the best help desk personnel.

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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2023, 08:21:09 AM »
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2023, 09:37:33 AM »
Used to really love the AT&T help desk line.
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Which was especially helpful when the problem was that your AT&T DSL Internet wasn't working, so it would have been impossible to go their web site in any event.
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2023, 10:01:39 AM »
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2023, 10:04:27 AM »
Don't get me started on the AT&T Help Desk...

It's outsourced to Bangalore (at least the functions I needed were) and depending on who you get the combination of static on the VOIP line and the accent could make things... difficult.

Yes, that and it seems like they're doing some kind of digital chopping or data compression on it which makes it even impossibler to  understand them.  Hey, at over 80yo, my hearing isn't that bad, but I've had to ask "them" (not only ATT) to spell things oout for me.l  It's almost as if they're somehow dropping every fifth or so  byte from their digitization of their voices.
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2023, 09:42:48 AM »
Used to really love the AT&T help desk line.
Read off in at least double speed: For faster service go to our website at
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That has got to be the greatest URL I've ever seen, but too close to the truth to be really funny,

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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2023, 12:09:42 PM »
Since outsourcing was brought up, my employer recently changed their purchasing system outsourcing.  They had gone to India (or somewhere nearby) and it never worked well.  They recently changed to either Argentina or Brazil (I forget).  The service and speed of getting purchase order requests has improved a great deal.   
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Re: Carbon copy
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2023, 01:21:39 PM »
Since outsourcing was brought up, my employer recently changed their purchasing system outsourcing.  They had gone to India (or somewhere nearby) and it never worked well.  They recently changed to either Argentina or Brazil (I forget).  The service and speed of getting purchase order requests has improved a great deal.   

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