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Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« on: January 22, 2021, 07:49:50 PM »
Apparently this new CDC order applies to everyone regardless of nationality.

My question: How can the US refuse entry to US citizens?  Or is this just a case of denying boarding to an aircraft, not denying entry into the US?  Sort of a loophole.



The info:

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s0112-negative-covid-19-air-passengers.html
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 08:05:27 PM »
Bit late for that to do any good.

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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 08:23:09 PM »
Horses bolted out of that barn a long time ago.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 08:29:47 PM »
Where’s the “but that’s raycism!” cries now???
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 08:59:55 PM »
Just fly to TJ or Nuevo Laredo and walk across the border. Modern problems require modern solutions.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 10:36:32 PM »
Funny if you test and it takes 3 days to get results so what happens if you catch it on day 2 of your wait......

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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2021, 09:58:29 AM »
Just fly to TJ or Nuevo Laredo and walk across the border. Modern problems require modern solutions.

That's my question, sort of.  Does this new rule only apply to airlines or to all border entries?

Can the US deny entry to a US citizen and resident if that person has the proper legal documents for entry?

edit:  Found the answer to my question.  No, the US cannot deny entry to US citizens.

https://www.axios.com/us-citizens-rights-at-the-border-430039f3-724b-4a26-8ad8-976346c95431.html

So, if the CBP cannot deny entry to a US citizen, how can the CDC order airlines to deny boarding to US citizens?
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2021, 12:09:44 PM »
The government is going to do what it damn well pleases because COVID, the Constitution, laws and US regulations notwithstanding.  It should be obvious by now.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2021, 12:15:18 PM »
Just fly to TJ or Nuevo Laredo and walk across the border. Modern problems require modern solutions.

There the dems will hand you welcoming papers which include a list of the govt assistance programs you're entitled to and a map showing the locations of polling stations in your city of choice.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2021, 03:45:03 PM »
lol, everyone who is vaccinated is going to give a false positive.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2021, 04:00:21 PM »
The government is going to do what it damn well pleases because COVID, the Constitution, laws and US regulations notwithstanding.  It should be obvious by now.

The Constitution is in abeyance.

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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2021, 05:35:04 PM »
lol, everyone who is vaccinated is going to give a false positive.

I don't think it works that way with the new vaccine.   Johnson & Johnson is coming out with a traditional vaccine that might  work like that.   I suppose they could give us a card saying we've been vaccinated so those faint of heart won't go all to pieces. >:D
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2021, 05:57:03 PM »
Anyone who has caught the bioweapon and is over it will still test positive for several months afterwards.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2021, 06:01:06 PM »
Why can't Biden do an EO to end the false positives?
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2021, 08:31:39 PM »
That's my question, sort of.  Does this new rule only apply to airlines or to all border entries?

Can the US deny entry to a US citizen and resident if that person has the proper legal documents for entry?

edit:  Found the answer to my question.  No, the US cannot deny entry to US citizens.

https://www.axios.com/us-citizens-rights-at-the-border-430039f3-724b-4a26-8ad8-976346c95431.html

So, if the CBP cannot deny entry to a US citizen, how can the CDC order airlines to deny boarding to US citizens?

Oh, that's adorable.

Yes you must be admitted.  But nowhere does it say you must be allowed to go where and when you were planning to.  You can easily  e admitted to a quarantine for testing.

In fact that link specifically points out that there is no limit to how long CBP can detain you.

So, yes a US citizen must be admitted.......eventually.

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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2021, 08:51:54 PM »
It's all a charade, so Biden can "show" that he is taking covid-19 seriously and doing more than Trump. Science and reason were thrown off the train four or five stops back.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2021, 08:53:50 PM »
Oh, that's adorable.

Yes you must be admitted.  But nowhere does it say you must be allowed to go where and when you were planning to.  You can easily  e admitted to a quarantine for testing.

In fact that link specifically points out that there is no limit to how long CBP can detain you.

So, yes a US citizen must be admitted.......eventually.

If you can get to the border (or a US embassy)
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2021, 11:38:15 PM »
And I'm sure test results wont be in any way politicized to control travel.

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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2021, 11:41:57 PM »
In the 80's they just asked if you were American and if you had any fireworks.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2021, 06:11:03 PM »
The government is going to do what it damn well pleases because COVID, the Constitution, laws and US regulations notwithstanding.  It should be obvious by now.

It's all a charade, so Biden can "show" that he is taking covid-19 seriously and doing more than Trump. Science and reason were thrown off the train four or five stops back.

As much as I take pride in being a straight-arrow law-abiding citizen, I hate to say that I'm beginning to slightly suspect that all this is actually pandemic theatre to aggrandize more power than the goverbnment is allotted by the Constitution.

Y'know, I think I'm starting to drift toward conservatism.  Imagine that.
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Re: Negative COVID test required to enter US by air for everyone
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2021, 07:38:17 PM »
As much as I take pride in being a straight-arrow law-abiding citizen, I hate to say that I'm beginning to slightly suspect that all this is actually pandemic theatre to aggrandize more power than the goverbnment is allotted by the Constitution.

Y'know, I think I'm starting to drift toward conservatism.  Imagine that.

I've been feeling like that for + - 9 months.
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