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Title: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Nitrogen on July 23, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
Cheney Obama refuses to release visitor logs showing which energy health care company executives visited the White House.

shamelessly stolen from Talking Points Memo (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/_dUClS35w-Y/deja_vu_all_over_again.php) a rather liberal blog.

Disappointed, but not surprised.

He's already pissed off his allies, not to mention enemies.  I smell one term.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on July 23, 2009, 06:12:29 PM
you remember his promise to televise the discussions?
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Monkeyleg on July 23, 2009, 06:34:42 PM
you remember his promise to televise the discussions promises?

Fixed it for you.

Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Standing Wolf on July 23, 2009, 09:36:47 PM
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I smell one term.

Yeah, and it stinks to high heaven.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: RevDisk on July 24, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Yeah, and it stinks to high heaven.

We need Obama to finish his term, and get tossed out of office in a landslide.  Socialism needs to die.  California financially imploding and Obama being tossed out by a wide margin are the best things we could hope for at this point.  It'd be nice solid proof that we need to turn around govt spending.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Jocassee on July 24, 2009, 09:01:41 AM
The campaign starts now. It's not too early to get involved with the conservo-libertarian candidate of your choice.

Just please not Mitt Romney. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleeeeeeaaaase.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Balog on July 24, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
We need Obama to finish his term, and get tossed out of office in a landslide.  Socialism needs to die.  California financially imploding and Obama being tossed out by a wide margin are the best things we could hope for at this point.  It'd be nice solid proof that we need to turn around govt spending.

This. The basis of personal responsiblity is accepting the consequences of your actions. America needs to feel some pain, and realize it's coming from DC, before we have any hope of stopping socialism.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: longeyes on July 24, 2009, 12:06:07 PM
Only when the bureaucratic engine seizes up will you have a serious slow-down in socialistic creep.  Somehow the great money machine has to be turned off.   It will probably be foreigners who do that for us.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: MechAg94 on July 24, 2009, 01:29:41 PM
It seems I heard a comment that they released some of those names right before a recent press conference.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 24, 2009, 03:10:59 PM
Cheney Obama refuses to release visitor logs showing which energy health care company executives visited the White House.

shamelessly stolen from Talking Points Memo (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Talking-Points-Memo/~3/_dUClS35w-Y/deja_vu_all_over_again.php) a rather liberal blog.

Disappointed, but not surprised.

He's already pissed off his allies, not to mention enemies.  I smell one term.

Are you forgetting about ACORN
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: buzz_knox on July 24, 2009, 03:46:23 PM
Are you forgetting about ACORN

ACORN will have to commit a lot of fraud if the indepedents continue bailing as they have been.

What am I saying?  ACORN is up to the challenge, especially with the money it will be getting from the various packages the gov't is passing right and left.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: restorer on July 24, 2009, 11:32:03 PM
What we need is a conservative analog to ACORN, kinda like their nemesis. We need a name with a cool acronym. I got one! How about..."Society for a Quick Uprising Intent on Recalling and Replacing Every Low-Life Socialist", ....aka SQUIRRELS. Everybody knows that SQUIRRELS bury ACORNs. It could be cool being a member of the true, official party of the squirrels.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: S. Williamson on July 25, 2009, 12:11:45 AM
Restorer... that is, quite possibly, the funniest thing I've read in this subforum.

And, by far, the best idea.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: roo_ster on July 25, 2009, 06:46:21 PM
The campaign starts now. It's not too early to get involved with the conservo-libertarian candidate of your choice.

Just please not Mitt Romney. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleeeeeeaaaase.

If you hope hard enough, you could get Huckabee the GOP nomination. 

Frying pan --> Fire
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 25, 2009, 06:53:02 PM
If there's a GOP winner in the 2012 Pres. election, something tells me it's not any of the front-runners from the last go-round. 
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Jamisjockey on July 25, 2009, 07:37:57 PM
If there's a GOP winner in the 2012 Pres. election, something tells me it's not any of the front-runners from the last go-round. 

I think Huckabee is one of the few that might be able to take another whack at it.  Probably, though, it's going to be one of the current governors from a conservative state. 
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: seeker_two on August 02, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
I think Huckabee is one of the few that might be able to take another whack at it.  Probably, though, it's going to be one of the current governors from a conservative state. 

Hopefully not from Texas...our governor choices aren't looking too good here...  =|
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: w turner on August 03, 2009, 12:47:36 AM
Why oh why can't we get someone that's NOT one of the usual suspects(governor, congressman, etc.)?

Wait, maybe I shouldn't say that. Obammy(state legislator, 1st term senator) is the closest thing to this we've had in a while. 

Would someone from the private sector be so bad?

Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Boomhauer on August 03, 2009, 01:07:37 AM
Hopefully not from Texas...our governor choices aren't looking too good here...  =|

In SC, our governor just went down in flames a month and a half ago...he would have been my pick, but forget about that, now...


Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: nico on August 03, 2009, 02:15:28 PM
Would someone from the private sector be so bad?

no, but I'm not sure they'd have a chance, unless it was someone who could completely buy the election like ::shudder: george soros (thank God he's not a natural born citizen, or we'd have even more to fear).  Someone who's rich enough and has enough connections to put together a legitimate campaign without being part of the government will most likely be the owner of a large company or some sort of executive.  Those kind of big business people would be incredibly easy to demonize, especially with the streak of socialism that seems to be running through the country right now. 
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Boomhauer on August 03, 2009, 06:22:13 PM
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george soros (thank God he's not a natural born citizen, or we'd have even more to fear)

I don't think that would stop him, and, no, I'm not talking about the crap about Obama born in Kenya or whatever.

I think Soros is content to hide behind the curtain and pull the puppet strings. And surely he isn't the only one...

Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: longeyes on August 04, 2009, 12:12:20 PM
It is hard to imagine any candidate carrying the banner of the Republican Party who could possibly represent a majority of Americans today.  This is not 1980.  That is why a traditional political solution to our current problems is decidedly unlikely.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: HankB on August 04, 2009, 12:36:02 PM
It is hard to imagine any candidate carrying the banner of the Republican Party who could possibly represent a majority of Americans today.  This is not 1980.  That is why a traditional political solution to our current problems is decidedly unlikely.
Just nominate Michael Savage and Ann Coulter.

They wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but at least they'd make the campaign and the debates a lot more entertaining.  =D
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: restorer on August 04, 2009, 12:39:48 PM
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That is why a traditional political solution to our current problems is decidedly unlikely.

I agree. What we need to develop is a new way to identify and select candidates. The "party machine" method of pre-selecting candidates is a bit dysfunctional and hardly guarantees that we will even be aware of the most qualified candidates. If you don't play ball with the party then you don't get invited to the dance. Our politicians have been "Velveeta-ized"...they may start out as the real deal but what you eventually buy in the store ain't exactly cheese.

An author...it may have been Vonnegut...had an idea that a President should be drafted and dragged kicking and screaming into the White House.  Like most of us he would be paid and given time off based on performance. He thought that anyone seeking the office is inherently unsuited for it. I don't think that's entirely true but he was moving in the right direction.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: longeyes on August 04, 2009, 01:06:51 PM
Unless our political representatives begin to talk honestly and openly about the various elephants in our living rooms nothing is going to get better.  Politics today is conducted in a parallel universe. 
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Gewehr98 on August 04, 2009, 02:15:05 PM
Not unlike some of the discussions in this forum...
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: longeyes on August 04, 2009, 10:06:33 PM
The current political landscape is distinguished by camouflage and misdirection. 

Who here believes that health care reform is really about health care?
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 04, 2009, 10:08:06 PM
Well, I don't believe it's reform. 
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: longeyes on August 04, 2009, 10:21:55 PM
Nor I.

Any more than Cash for Clunkers is aimed at giving the American consumer a break.

Anything but what would work and expand personal freedom and choice.
Title: Re: Meet the new boss, the same as the old boss
Post by: Boomhauer on August 04, 2009, 10:38:36 PM
How about the administration's urge to report opposition to the healthcare "reform"?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Facts-Are-Stubborn-Things/