Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: MillCreek on June 23, 2018, 09:23:57 AM
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/23/622692550/analysis-finds-geographic-overlap-in-opioid-use-and-trump-support-in-2016?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180623
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2685627
The opioid use seems to be a proxy for socioeconomic factors such as rural location, unemployment, median income, education level and the like.
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Of note to me is that they are measuring improper use of prescribed opioids vs illegal dealings in opioids. The researchers themselves say they have no way of measuring the opioid black market. Should we really believe Chicago or Portland or Seattle have less of a drug problem than BFE Louisiana?
No doubt there are people in poorer areas with limited medical facilities that "need their scrips". But then plenty of people in Beverly Hills "need their anxiety/stress/life-coping prescriptions" (and pay cash for them) as well. Not to mention "party favors". I think either can be looked at as "hopeless, desperate people".
I can't really see any viable correlation in this research. Not to mention, why is JAMA making political statements, especially given lack of data? This is kind of like saying, "There is a correlation between over-prescribed opioids and places that have hurricanes." Also, they are creating a bias by only using Medicare data. They are practically targeting poor, rural populations.
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In thinking about how the opioid use is a proxy for various socioeconomic factors, I wonder if you would see similar correlation for Social Security disability and voting patterns.
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Hey, we ALL KNOW that CORRELATION IS CAUSATION ....... right? ;/ :facepalm:
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Remember what Marl Twain said (or wrote): "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
If you cherry pick the data well enough, you can gin up alleged statistics to support any hypothesis you want to promote.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/06/23/622692550/analysis-finds-geographic-overlap-in-opioid-use-and-trump-support-in-2016?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180623
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2685627
The opioid use seems to be a proxy for socioeconomic factors such as rural location, unemployment, median income, education level and the like.
Rho, rho, rho your boat...
Statistics don't lie. Statisticians lie.
OH! I just noticed this:
www.npr.org
and
https://jamanetwork
Do I detect a "proxy" relationship between those and the general hyperliberal establishment?
Nah.
Rho, rho, rho your boat...
Terry
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Unless I missed it the story left out how ACA played a huge role in the opioids with the here is three months worth for two bucks crap.
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^ There ! That confirms the thesis, which is that Trump voters are all lowlifes.