i just have to add, when you have what looks like paid agents attacking a man/news outlet. yes you need to listen to the whole show to see what was said. as well as look to see it they issued an apology after the fact*.
Well I didn't listen to the entire show, but I listened to the entire youtube clip. There's no qualifier statement, he doesn't clarify anything, its just the quote "There was a shooting at a political camp, which sounds a little like the Hitler Youth, or whatever. I mean who does a camp for kids that's all about politics, disturbing." and then he continues to talk about the shooting but nothing referring back to the Hitler Youth comment.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201107270022 @ 2:30 Beck claims that "they" are taking something he said "completely out of context" but never clarifies what he actually meant. If people where claiming that I falsely compared murdered children to the Hitler Youth I would immediately clarify what I said or meant. He has his own show and the perfect chance to explain himself but chooses not to.
personally, i still don't see commenting on the people running the camp, as impeaching the kids in any way. not like they had any say in what they were doing or even being there.
Imagine If I said "There was a shooting at a NRA convention, which sounds a little like the KKK, or whatever. I mean who does a convention that's all about guns, disturbing."
It would subtly imply that I thought the people attending or running that convention were racists. By comparing a children's camp to the Hitler Youths it implies that either the people running the camp or the kids themselves where similar to the H.Y. It's derogatory to compare a peaceful political camp for kids to one of the most evil and xenophobic political parties in history. Unless the camp was advocating rounding up or exterminating a specific ethnic or religious group I don't know how you can logically compare the two.
as for that creepy movie. from the trailers(there's no way on earth i'm wasting the time to watch it ) there weren't any politics involved.
I must have some type of intellectual masochist because I actually sat through that entire movie awhile ago, and there is a very conservative slant to many of the messages that woman preaches through out the movie, at one point she has the children pray for, or to George Bush. The most disturbing part is when the older woman says "Do some warfare over him".
WTF? Its at the :41 second mark. Watch some clips online of that movie, if that's not indoctrination I don't know what is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg I also brought it up to ask the question if anyone else here thought that was creepy and to show that its not only the left that runs political camps for kids, everyone does it, and that was the most extreme case I could think of off the top of my head and I would still never compare anyone in that movie to Nazi's.
