Intactivists in Florida snip away at opponents

[KD5NRH]

Irregardless of one's stance on snipping of infants, does anyone else think that by the time the kid is 4 it's not a great idea?

Had a friend who voluntarily got it done at 11.  I can't imagine.

[roo_ster]

Had a friend who voluntarily got it done at 11.  I can't imagine.

Knew a guy who got it done in his 20s.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

A "less than fully functional member" ALWAYS results, I mean by definition. You are excising parts here. Not only do you lose the majority of nerve ends, the loss of the foreskin results in scarifiication of what's left. Discussion of "complications" is moving the goalposts.

Talk about moving the goalposts.  You've just redefined things to make all circumcision wrong by definition.  That does nothing to help inform the discussion.  

The question is rates of complications weighed against the benefits, not how to redefine circumcision in the worst possible light.

Had a friend who voluntarily got it done at 11.  I can't imagine.

Knew a guy who got it done in his 20s.

I knew someone who had it done the summer before high school.  He regarded it as an improvement, not mutilation.

I know another guy who married into a Jewish family and took up the faith.  I've no idea if he had to get it done, but if so, it would have been in his 30's.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Know several guys had it done in their 40's


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[KD5NRH]

I know another guy who married into a Jewish family and took up the faith.  I've no idea if he had to get it done, but if so, it would have been in his 30's.

OK, I thought 11 was bad, but at least that one was probably not planning to use it any time soon.  Doing it as late-stage prep for marriage seems counterproductive.

[brimic]

Even as an adult, its a relatively small cut. I'd take a circumcism over a lot of things that I've had happen to me in the last 20 years- broken bones,sprains,  kidney stones, biopsies, cavities filled, bouts of the flu, burns etc. Then there's the finger nail that is falling off that I smashed at work a few months back...

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

OK, I thought 11 was bad, but at least that one was probably not planning to use it any time soon.  Doing it as late-stage prep for marriage seems counterproductive.

Like I said, I've no idea if he needed to have it done or not.  But even if so, it's still doesn't seem like that big a deal.  Timing might be awkward if done the day before the wedding, but that seems unlikely.

[freakazoid]

A "less than fully functional member" ALWAYS results, I mean by definition. You are excising parts here. Not only do you lose the majority of nerve ends, the loss of the foreskin results in scarifiication of what's left. Discussion of "complications" is moving the goalposts.

If you circumcised your kid, you already chose to radically change his penis and affect his future sex life. Best case scenario is he and his future wife are content with what they are missing and convince themselves that it's ok.

Circumcision is the only prophylactic surgery still performed in the civilized world. Maybe it could be justified if there was truly life-threatening concerns, but there aren't. My friend's kid got a UTI, and the prescription was "make him drink lots of water".   This leads me to conclude that the motivation is mostly cosmetic, and unfortunately for the victim utterly irreversible.

Radically changed his sex life? Best case scenario with his wife is they have to convince themselves? Are you shitting me? You talk as if only a few people have had it done and every single person has been been mentally scarred and is now not able to perform and have to hide it in shame. "Don't look at it woman for it is circumcised!"  Give me a freakin break.
Seems to me that the opposite is true. Where are you coming up with these crazy scenarios?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

They have a website


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[KD5NRH]

They have a website

So does Art Bell.

[dogmush]

They have a website

They always do.......

[brimic]

They have a website


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I don't know why, but THAT made me laugh to the point of bringing tears to my eyes.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

After sotu I need laughs too.


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[BlueStarLizzard]

A "less than fully functional member" ALWAYS results, I mean by definition. You are excising parts here. Not only do you lose the majority of nerve ends, the loss of the foreskin results in scarifiication of what's left. Discussion of "complications" is moving the goalposts.

If you circumcised your kid, you already chose to radically change his penis and affect his future sex life. Best case scenario is he and his future wife are content with what they are missing and convince themselves that it's ok.

Circumcision is the only prophylactic surgery still performed in the civilized world. Maybe it could be justified if there was truly life-threatening concerns, but there aren't. My friend's kid got a UTI, and the prescription was "make him drink lots of water".   This leads me to conclude that the motivation is mostly cosmetic, and unfortunately for the victim utterly irreversible.

well, I've never been with an uncut guy, so I can't give a true comparison from a female perspective.

However, I've been with an assortment of cut guys and, trust me, they were all fully functional. Nor were they disappointed with the results.

I'm sorry, but the only personal perspective I would take seriously is from someone who was sexually active both before and after the procedure. Other than that, well, you can't miss what you don't know, nor can you say you got it better if you've never had the bad.

[BlueStarLizzard]

Know several guys had it done in their 40's


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could you please poll them and post the results here, so we can finally have this damn question answered.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

could you please poll them and post the results here, so we can finally have this damn question answered.

Yeah.  So.  How exactly is that conversation supposed to go?

"Hey Joe, this is Bob.  I know we haven't talked in a while, but I wanted to call you up and ask you about your penis."

 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

2 of them had it done for medical reasons and I don't know why the other guy did it. The one problem they mentioned was they had a lil spray to use to prevent or halt an erection during the healing process. I never asked exactly what the medical reasons were. It's kinda a don't ask don't tell thing


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[BlueStarLizzard]

Yeah.  So.  How exactly is that conversation supposed to go?

"Hey Joe, this is Bob.  I know we haven't talked in a while, but I wanted to call you up and ask you about your penis."

 

pretend you're doing a research study?

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Ask csd for their numbers and call 'em yourself.

"Hey Joe, this is Liz.  I don't know you.  We've never met.  But there's this guy on the internet who told me about your penis.  I wanted to call you up and talk about it."

Be sure to record the conversation and post it here.

 


I should really be doing something productive right now...

[mtnbkr]

I should really be doing something productive right now...

Instead, you're here talking about penises. 

Chris

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

And giggling like a schoolkid.

 

[BlueStarLizzard]

Ask csd for their numbers and call 'em yourself.

"Hey Joe, this is Liz.  I don't know you.  We've never met.  But there's this guy on the internet who told me about your penis.  I wanted to call you up and talk about it."

Be sure to record the conversation and post it here.

 


I should really be doing something productive right now...

you really shouldn't think I wouldn't.

Come on, guys! don't we want this infernal question answered once and for all!

Don't you want to know if you should be ranting and raving at your parents for their mutilation of your dangles?

[KD5NRH]

The one problem they mentioned was they had a lil spray to use to prevent or halt an erection during the healing process.

Problem?  Hell, where can I get some of that stuff?

[brimic]

Ask csd for their numbers and call 'em yourself.

"Hey Joe, this is Liz.  I don't know you.  We've never met.  But there's this guy on the internet who told me about your penis.  I wanted to call you up and talk about it."

Be sure to record the conversation and post it here.

 


I should really be doing something productive right now...

Yeah, that would sound legit.

 

[Perd Hapley]

http://www.circumcisioncomplex.com/jewish-conspiracy/

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=55862