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How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« on: April 22, 2010, 07:46:02 AM »
I used to consider myself a bit of an environmentalist.  Now, I'm an anti-environmentalist. 

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2010, 07:59:09 AM »
i prefer to make Gaia happy and Al Gore cry.

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2010, 07:59:14 AM »
That's the wrong idea. Should be concentrating on debunking the wackos, not "desecrate earf".

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2010, 08:00:16 AM »
Harold and eyebrows FTW.

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2010, 08:05:24 AM »
Run Sugar Mama on the muffs to charge up the batteries.  About the best I can do today.  4stroke outboards are pretty low emissions, though.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2010, 08:18:00 AM »
I can't think of a thing.  Perhaps I need to start selling carbon credits.  If I'm going to stay home all day, living a low-impact existence, then someone with an SUV and an excess of guilt probably ought to give me money. 

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2010, 08:22:02 AM »
Burn all my old floppys?  :angel:
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2010, 08:23:03 AM »
Celebrate my 4th wedding anniversary by going to a Brazilian steakhouse and eating all the beef that I want.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2010, 08:25:52 AM »
Hm, yeah, I can participate in the desecration of Earth Day simply by eating a cow.  It's just so easy to be anti-environmentalist these days. 

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2010, 08:27:53 AM »
i am preparing to burn a tire  >:D
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2010, 08:30:03 AM »
Nothing ruins the enviornment more than the .gov and/or .mil so I'm playing Army.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2010, 09:42:18 AM »
The traditional way to celebrate Earth Day is to go the National Mall, trash it, and leave tons of litter, debris, and unspeakable filth behind for someone else to clean up.

Can't get to Washington this year, and they don't tolerate that sort of thing in TX the way they do in D.C., so I'll have to settle for something less . . . I think I'll model my behavior on America's - no, make that The World's -  #1 Environmentalist, Algore, and see if I can do better than he can:

1. I'll use 1/10 the energy in my house that Algore uses in his house.

2. I'll reduce my environmental footprint by only having 1 home rather than the 4 that Algore has. (That's 4 that we know about.)

3. I'll drive around in ONE vehicle, a single SUV, without an entourage, rather than in a caravan, the way Algore does.

4. If I travel by air, it will be by fuel-efficient commercial aircraft, rather than a fuel-guzzling private jet, the way Algore does.

These are going to be hard sacrifices to make, but Algore's actions (rather than his mere words) have convinced me that saving Gaia is worth it.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2010, 09:52:24 AM »
Hmmm, I rode the 60 MPG scooter to work today, and when I get home, I will go for a ride on my hardtail MTB.  The knobby tires on the MTB may cause some slight trail erosion, I suppose.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2010, 10:07:57 AM »
I made a huge batch of black beans, rice, corn, ham, onions, tomatoes, and broth, so the local pollution with be Pretty BadTM=D
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2010, 10:12:35 AM »
I'll be putting some R134a in a coworkers auto A/C system.

Even with low loss fittings, a bit tends to leak out when the gauge set is removed.  =(

But, R134a isn't ozone deleting (which, I actually DO believe in), but it is a "greenhouse gas", which I don't buy into.

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 10:14:57 AM »
I'll be putting some R134a in a coworkers auto A/C system.

Even with low loss fittings, a bit tends to leak out when the gauge set is removed.  =(

But, R134a isn't ozone deleting (which, I actually DO believe in), but it is a "greenhouse gas", which I don't buy into.

You shouldn't.  ;)

I'll be dealing with hazardous chemicals including Hg and various other heavy metal compounds, using electricity hungry machine tools, perhaps even firing off some guns at the range, oh, and ESPECIALLY using plenty of VOC-containing finishes on some new furniture I built.
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 10:16:38 AM »
You shouldn't.  ;)

Oh?  Do tell.  =)

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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2010, 10:22:06 AM »
Oh?  Do tell.  =)

Ozone depletion has pretty much the same problem as global warming - the data set. In this case, it's less than 36 years old.

Thirty-six years of data. For a planet. And we're drawing conclusions?!  :O

Not only that, all the large names in ozone depletion (still) say it's conclusively linked to global warming, that it increases the greenhouse effect, etc.

Maybe it's just me, but thinking that the human race can drastically effect an entire planet's climate in the space of 36 years seems.... absurd. If we can do that to Earth in 36 years, well dang, we ought to be able to terraform other places in a few decades too, instead of the thousands or tens of thousands of years all models predict. Best part is that the same people that predict it would take thousands of years to even START modifying other planets' climate, say we've dramatically changed the Earth in 36 years.  ;)
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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2010, 10:24:34 AM »
You're just not hoping for change hard enough.  :angel:



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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2010, 10:24:41 AM »
That's the wrong idea. Should be concentrating on debunking the wackos, not "desecrate earf".

As this thread yet again demonstrates, running your engine on Earth Day is all most have got.
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In Honor of Earth Day, Let's Have Some DDT
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2010, 11:05:19 AM »
In honor of Earth Day, I will do two things:
1.  Post a link to an blog post, interview, and amazon purchase page about the authors of The Excellent Powder: DDT's Political and Scientific History
2. Call a buddy  whose stepdad* still has a 100lb bag of DDT in his basement and offer to "take it off his hands" so I can sling some in my crawlspace.

Video Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXQePTscn5c&feature=player_embedded


Amazon Link To The Excellent Powder: DDT's Political and Scientific History :
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1608443760/ref=nosim/nationalreviewon


Blog Post:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzQ2Yjg1ZmM3NWRiZWQ4NjJmNjI0MzhhMDA5NjBiMDA=

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

In Honor of Earth Day, Let's Have Some DDT   [Veronique de Rugy]

Tomorrow is Earth Day. Preparing for the event, my daughter's first-grade class has been hard at work to show all the perils that our planet faces. Hoping to brighten her teacher and her classmates' day, I sent her to school with this USA Today article by the fantastic director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, Bjorn Lomborg, stating that:
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    Given all the talk of impending catastrophe, this may come as a surprise, but as we approach the 40th anniversary of the first Earth Day, people who care about the environment actually have a lot to celebrate. [...] In virtually every developed country, the air is more breathable and the water is more drinkable than it was in 1970. In most of the First World, deforestation has turned to reforestation. Moreover, the percentage of malnutrition has been reduced, and ever-more people have access to clean water and sanitation.

I would have loved to send her with this Reason TV interview of Africa Fighting Malaria's Richard Tren and Donald Roberts about what's so excellent about DDT.

A reader sent this yesterday:

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    . . . A great deal of my work involved strategy development for new pesticides. The fact is that DDT is truly remarkable! I can't count the number of pesticides that have come — and gone — being introduced as "the successor to DDT." DDT is still here; most of the "successors" are long gone.

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    The truly remarkable fact about DDT is that it remains effective after more than 65 years. In fact it was a Ciba chemist who won the Nobel Prize for chemistry in 1943 for DDT. Moreover, it was given credit for saving the Italian campaign. Absent DDT, it would have been necessary to close the port of Naples, which was the main supply point for all Allied troops in Italy, because of a massive typhus epidemic. Along came DDT and the epidemic was stopped cold.

The Excellent Powder book is here. It's truly excellent.

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Re: In Honor of Earth Day, Let's Have Some DDT
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2010, 11:12:19 AM »
In honor of Earth Day, I will do two things:
1.  Post a link to an blog post, interview, and amazon purchase page about the authors of The Excellent Powder: DDT's Political and Scientific History
2. Call a buddy  whose stepdad* still has a 100lb bag of DDT in his basement and offer to "take it off his hands" so I can sling some in my crawlspace.

Video Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXQePTscn5c&feature=player_embedded


Amazon Link To The Excellent Powder: DDT's Political and Scientific History :
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1608443760/ref=nosim/nationalreviewon


Blog Post:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NzQ2Yjg1ZmM3NWRiZWQ4NjJmNjI0MzhhMDA5NjBiMDA=

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

In Honor of Earth Day, Let's Have Some DDT   [Veronique de Rugy]

Tomorrow is Earth Day. Preparing for the event, my daughter's first-grade class has been hard at work to show all the perils that our planet faces. Hoping to brighten her teacher and her classmates' day, I sent her to school with this USA Today article by the fantastic director of the Copenhagen Consensus Center, Bjorn Lomborg, stating that:
I would have loved to send her with this Reason TV interview of Africa Fighting Malaria's Richard Tren and Donald Roberts about what's so excellent about DDT.

A reader sent this yesterday:

The Excellent Powder book is here. It's truly excellent.

04/21 10:48 AMShare



* Also has a mason jar full of mercury, but I have no use for that.

If he doesn't need it, I'll buy it! I'm looking for Hg of any quality in any quantity.  =D
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Re: In Honor of Earth Day, Let's Have Some DDT
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2010, 11:13:01 AM »
If he doesn't need it, I'll buy it! I'm looking for Hg of any quality in any quantity.  =D

Cutting charges will apply! 



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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2010, 11:13:52 AM »
Hg by the linear foot?   :mad:


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Re: How will you be desecrating Earf Day today?
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2010, 11:21:49 AM »
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