Shooting at California garlic festival

[Angel Eyes]

According to this he used a AK-47

Time to trot this out again:

[Boomhauer]

Just in time to distract from Epstein

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Them bad guys - - - They just love them gun-free zones, don't they!

They'll now insist on removing all chain link fencing and installing 50 foot concrete bomb-proof walls with anti-personnel mines mounted all along the top. Hmm. 50 feet might not be enough. Even a couch potato could probably lob a grenade over the top.

Easy solution? Cancel its no-gun-zone status. 

Woody

[WLJ]

Them bad guys - - - They just love them gun-free zones, don't they!

They'll now insist on removing all chain link fencing and installing 50 foot concrete bomb-proof walls with anti-personnel mines mounted all along the top. Hmm. 50 feet might not be enough. Even a couch potato could probably lob a grenade over the top.

Easy solution? Cancel its no-gun-zone status.  

Woody

But building a wall is racist.

[Hawkmoon]

I wonder if it was a private sale? Once a dealer saw his CA license, they should have said, "sorry", no? I'm still trying to catch up on what's legal for in-person out of state sales in America.

Long gun sales to non-residents of the state where the sale takes place have to conform to the laws of both the buyer's and the seller's state of residence. I saw at least one article that reported the shooter purchased the AK-47 "legally" in Nevada. Since other reports quoted witnesses as having seen him doing magazine changes, the gun clearly wasn't California-legal and, therefore, it wasn't purchased "legally" in Nevada.

[dogmush]

I like garlic bread as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure I'd go through a metal detector for some.

Is it time to trot out a Chris Rock quote again?

Never go to clubs with metal detectors. Sure it feels safe inside. But what about all those niggas waiting outside with guns? They know you ain't got one.

Sometimes they don't wait outside.

[WLJ]

Long gun sales to non-residents of the state where the sale takes place have to conform to the laws of both the buyer's and the seller's state of residence. I saw at least one article that reported the shooter purchased the AK-47 "legally" in Nevada. Since other reports quoted witnesses as having seen him doing magazine changes, the gun clearly wasn't California-legal and, therefore, it wasn't purchased "legally" in Nevada.

Been thinking the same thing which means one of the following happened.
A) The gun was not CA legal which means the FFL in NV is in deep doo-doo
B) The gun was CA legal and he modified it after purchase
C) He didn't actually purchase it legally

Either one and the answer is ban guns

[BobR]

Been thinking the same thing which means one of the following happened.
A) The gun was not CA legal which means the FFL in NV is in deep doo-doo
B) The gun was CA legal and he modified it after purchase
C) He didn't actually purchase it legally

Either one and the answer is ban guns

D) Private party sale aka "Gun Show Loophole"

Here comes universal background checks....again.

bob

[Hawkmoon]

D) Private party sale aka "Gun Show Loophole"

Here comes universal background checks....again.

Yep.

And the fact that he was squeaky clean and would have passed a background check won't even be mentioned.

[WLJ]

That IMHO would fall under C

[BobR]

That IMHO would fall under C

Agreed, but that is not how it will be trotted out. They are already saying he purchased it legally in NV which we know is wrong because he was a CA resident.

bob

[Hawkmoon]

Agreed, but that is not how it will be trotted out. They are already saying he purchased it legally in NV which we know is wrong because he was a CA resident.

Does the law about out-of-state purchases having to conform to the laws of both states apply only to sales by/through an FFL, or does the law apply to private sales as well?

[HeroHog]

If I purchase a gun from a non-FFL, the law is on ME to know what the laws are that effect me and on ME not to break them. The law is the same on the seller. I ALWAYS ask for a state issued ID to check residence and age before I sell a gun.

[WLJ]

The shooter had an assault-style rifle and appeared to shoot at random, Smithee said. The SKS, an "AK-47-type" rifle, was purchased legally in Nevada on July 9, he said, adding that his understanding is that Legan purchased the weapon himself.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/food-garlic-festival-shooting/index.html

Are SKSs legal without mods in CA?

[WLJ]

Website that sells CA legal guns and they have several SKS models shown. BTW: Prices are nuts
https://wbtguns.com/semi-auto-rifles/yugo-sks-59-66-very-good-excellent-condition-california-legal-7-62x39/

A quick check shows they have Chinese "Para" models without bayonets and lugs but the Yugo models have bayonets but have had the grenade launcher removed.

Edit: And they're in San Diego

[dogmush]

That CNN article mentions that he had been living in NV for a while.  So he was probably a NV resident when he bought the SKS.

[WLJ]

Details like that we may never know for sure.


Apparently they're running wild with he was a white supremacist and thus by extension TRUMP!

The other, which included a photo of Smokey the Bear and a sign saying "Fire Danger High Today," stated: "Read Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard. Why overcrowd towns and pave more open space to make room for hordes of mestizos and Silicon Valley white tw**s?"
A mestizo is a person of mixed descent, commonly white and Hispanic or white and American Indian.
"Might is Right," first published in the late 1800s, has been described as a white supremacist text that promotes anarchy while vilifying Christianity. The book calls Jesus the "true Prince of Evil" and says that the natural order is a world at war in which the strong must vanquish the weak and white men must rule over those of color.

[Hawkmoon]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/29/us/food-garlic-festival-shooting/index.html

Are SKSs legal without mods in CA?

An SKS is NOT an AK-47 "type" rifle. An SKS is an SKS type rifle.

[WLJ]

An SKS is NOT an AK-47 "type" rifle. An SKS is an SKS type rifle.

An SKS is just a harmless stick when someone uses one to shoot holes in Rs at a baseball game but it's an baby killing AK-47 when in the hands of Trump loving white supremacist

[freakazoid]

It was an AK63D that he bought in Nevada since he has a Nevada residence.
Been reading that he would post about a book from the 1890's called Might is Right that is very anti-Christian, anarachist, and white supremacist; and apparently one of the influences for LaVey's Satanic Bible.
Also this "white" shooter is of Italian and Iranian decent.

[Hawkmoon]

It was an AK63D that he bought in Nevada since he has a Nevada residence.

Doesn't look like the SKS I had ...

So he bought it legally, but he illegally imported it into California.

[Perd Hapley]

An SKS is NOT an AK-47 "type" rifle. An SKS is an SKS type rifle.

You can't murder people with an SKS. It only has a ten-caliber clip. He must have modified it with a 30-caliber ghost clip.

[WLJ]

It was an AK63D that he bought in Nevada since he has a Nevada residence.
Been reading that he would post about a book from the 1890's called Might is Right that is very anti-Christian, anarachist, and white supremacist; and apparently one of the influences for LaVey's Satanic Bible.
Also this "white" shooter is of Italian and Iranian decent.

Where did you read AK63D? Unless I missed it somewhere.
Now there is a SKS D, it's a model that takes AK-47 mags. That model would be flatly illegal in CA

[WLJ]

Newsom: Trump and Republicans to Blame for Gilroy Gun Violence
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/newsom-trump-and-republicans-to-blame-for-gilroy-gun-violence/

    Newsom touted his and other California leaders’ work to crack down on high-capacity magazines and increase background checks for guns and ammunition purchases. He blasted Republicans and pro-gun groups trying to roll back gun-control policies in states like California.

    “California’s doing its part, but Jesus, these guys, the folks in the White House have been supporting the kinds of policies that roll back the work that we’re doing,” he said. “It keeps happening, over and over and over again, on their damned watch.”

– Sophia Bollag in Gavin Newsom blames Trump, Republicans for ‘culture of gun violence’ after Gilroy shooting

[Perd Hapley]

Where did you read AK63D? Unless I missed it somewhere.
Now there is a SKS D, it's a model that takes AK-47 mags. That model would be flatly illegal in CA

But a pretty cool gun anywhere else.