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Title: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 27, 2019, 07:34:22 PM
http://news.trust.org/item/20190727165259-hatmv

Trump calls Baltimore a mess. Tells Rep Elijah Cummings to clean up his own cesspool of a district before he criticizes the Border Patrol. Mayor of Baltimore lionizes Cummings:

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Baltimore Mayor Bernard Young called Trump's rhetoric "hurtful and dangerous."

"It's completely unacceptable for the political leader of our country to denigrate a vibrant American City like Baltimore, and to viciously attack U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings a patriot and a hero," he tweeted.

Will somone please help me out? How is Elijah Cummings a patriot and a hero? Did he fight in the American Revolution? Did he fight in some more recent war? Did he win a Medal of Honor, Silver Star, even a Bronze Star? What, exactly, makes him a hero?
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 27, 2019, 07:35:39 PM
http://news.trust.org/item/20190727165259-hatmv

Trump calls Baltimore a mess. Tells Rep Elijah Cummings to clean up his own cesspool of a district before he criticizes the Border Patrol. Mayor of Baltimore lionizes Cummings:

Will somoen please help me out? How is Elijah Cummings a patriot and a hero? Did he fight in the American Revolution? Did he fight in some more recent war? Did he win a Medal of Honor, Silver Star, even a Bronze Star? What, exactly, makes him a hero?

He doesn't like hates Trump.

Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Pb on July 27, 2019, 08:39:41 PM
Wow.

Baltimore has a murder rate of around 56 per 100000!

That is over 11 times that national average! 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/25/baltimore-homicide-murder-rate-fbi-statistics-death-crime-killings/1426739002/
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: MikeB on July 27, 2019, 09:02:01 PM
http://news.trust.org/item/20190727165259-hatmv

Trump calls Baltimore a mess. Tells Rep Elijah Cummings to clean up his own cesspool of a district before he criticizes the Border Patrol. Mayor of Baltimore lionizes Cummings:

Will somone please help me out? How is Elijah Cummings a patriot and a hero? Did he fight in the American Revolution? Did he fight in some more recent war? Did he win a Medal of Honor, Silver Star, even a Bronze Star? What, exactly, makes him a hero?

He apparently marched in an participated in a lot of civil rights actions around the time of MLK. That could make him a hero, there was some risk for African Americans participating in protests and marches at the time. I don't know if his participation was just being there as was the case for a very large number of people of all races and ethnicities or if he did anything that deserves particular attention and being considered a hero. He seems to be extremely unintelligent, but not all heros are particularly smart, doesn't make what they may have done any less. On the other hand, we recently spent a lot of time lionizing another hero recently that even if he did something heroic back in Vietnam was more or less a monster later in life. Mueller has a huge list of civil rights and prosecutorial abuses on his record even before being involved in the latest incident.

Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Silver Bullet on July 27, 2019, 09:14:56 PM
My recollection of events is as follows:

1) The mayor of Baltimore came out supporting BLM when policemen were being murdered;
2) The murder rate in Baltimore subsequently skyrocketed;
3) The mayor of Baltimore was pleading for more gun restrictions on the totally not involved innocent gun owners.

Do I recall correctly?
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: HankB on July 27, 2019, 10:54:20 PM
Wow.

Baltimore has a murder rate of around 56 per 100000!

That is over 11 times that national average! 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/25/baltimore-homicide-murder-rate-fbi-statistics-death-crime-killings/1426739002/
And in 2018, Baltimore had the highest rates of syphillis, gonorrhea, and chlamydia among all Maryland jurisdictions according to the Maryland Department of Health. https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/OIDPCS/CSTIP/CSTIPDocuments/Reports/STI%202018%20Annual%20Report%20Maryland.pdf

And as for rats, according to Animal Planet (http://www.animalplanet.com/wild-animals/3-baltimore-md/) Baltimore may trail Boston and NYC in rat infestation.
Although:
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Baltimore's rat problem is bad enough that at one point, rats tunneled so intensely beneath a particular area of pavement that when garbage collectors drove over it, their truck sunk up to its axles. Rats in the vicinity took full advantage of the mishap and swarmed the truck, gorging on the garbage inside.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ron on July 28, 2019, 09:26:53 AM
Sounds like a third world *expletive deleted*it hole.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ben on July 28, 2019, 09:39:53 AM
This is one where I'll be hypocritical. I am no Cummings fan, and I have made the same kind of cracks about Maxine Waters' district. But really, it's not the right direction to aim the cannons. Much like Flint Michigan, this is mostly on local and state governments. in Flint they wanted to blame Trump, and I see that April Ryan said that it's Trump's duty to fix Baltimore, not Cummings'.

Really though, either of them only have a minor role to play here. Places like Baltimore are more the fault of the local governments, and honestly, the residents themselves. A good analog is Hurricane Katrina. We all saw the Charlie Foxtrot that was New Orleans, and we all saw everyone rushing to blame Bush and the fed.gov. Yet one state away, we had places harder hit, and local governments and neighbors of all stripes came together and helped each other.

This is much the same as people expecting the fed.gov to bail them out of a catastrophe with immediate on the ground response, when really, the fed.gov is for post disaster stuff and local governments should be jumping in, and residents should keep their 72 hour minimum emergency supplies on hand.  Baltimore is an example of people, and the local Baltimore government, standing around waiting for big brother to do something for them.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: brimic on July 28, 2019, 09:41:44 AM
‘Vibrant’ is synonymous with ‘ghetto’ these days.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ron on July 28, 2019, 09:54:19 AM
The time for being "nice" and "polite" is coming to an end.

The left hasn't been nice or polite toward the right for a long time.

The reality isn't nice or polite.

Speaking the truth and pointing out the reality of *expletive deleted*it holes run by our own 3rd world grifters is exactly what is needed.

In order to find a solution to a problem you have to accurately assess exactly what the problem is, and how it came to be.




 

Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: 230RN on July 28, 2019, 10:46:40 AM
The supposed patriotism and supposed heroism of U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings and other BS aside, the crux of this dust-up is that a prominent person with a sense of reality, a bit of courage, and a bit of disdain for the normal "politically correct" protocol has fired back at a left-wing critic of the Border Patrol.

And I hope that particular prominent person wins "HUGE" in 2020.

Terry, 230RN

ETA:  Interestingly, I composed and posted this before I saw Ron's post.  I'm pleased to see the idea of cutting through PC diplomatic BS is gaining recognition.

REALITY NOW !
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: grampster on July 28, 2019, 12:25:21 PM
I wish someone could tell me why it's OK to castigate and name call including calling the president a motherfecker, but if the motherfecker talks back, it's all the isms and bigotry.  The other thing the MSM fails to mention is that Trump is an Equal Opportunity critic as he has jabbed back in very certain terms at every colorful iteration of human being.

With respect to American scatholes, they are all run and have been run by Ds since, well, forever.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 28, 2019, 12:52:37 PM
The supposed patriotism and supposed heroism of U.S. Representative Elijah Cummings and other BS aside, the crux of this dust-up is that a prominent person with a sense of reality, a bit of courage, and a bit of disdain for the normal "politically correct" protocol has fired back at a left-wing critic of the Border Patrol.


My issue isn't so much the poor condition of Baltimore, which I agree is primarily under the purview of the city and state governments. My problem is in characterizing Cummings as a "patriot" and a "hero" when, as far as I can see, he hasn't ever done anything that's either patriotic or heroic.

It's not just Cummings. In recent times, the mass media have so overused and abused the term "hero" that it has pretty much become meaningless. Today, it seems that people are "heroes" for getting out of bed and going to work in the morning. Colour me old-fashioned, but IMHO that's not what heroism is supposed to mean.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 28, 2019, 12:54:03 PM

With respect to American scatholes, they are all run and have been run by Ds since, well, forever.

I'm sure that's just an unfortunate coincidence.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on July 28, 2019, 01:03:16 PM
In the lib world it's always someone else's fault.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ben on July 28, 2019, 02:02:43 PM

It's not just Cummings. In recent times, the mass media have so overused and abused the term "hero" that it has pretty much become meaningless. Today, it seems that people are "heroes" for getting out of bed and going to work in the morning. Colour me old-fashioned, but IMHO that's not what heroism is supposed to mean.

I 100% agree.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: HankB on July 28, 2019, 02:25:42 PM
Sounds like a third world *expletive deleted*it hole.
If you're REALLY interested in what constitutes that kind of country . . . here's a recent story about Ugandan toilets.

Or lack of same.  :O

https://www.apnews.com/c225ff70420846489892ea206ecca6d1 (https://www.apnews.com/c225ff70420846489892ea206ecca6d1)

Some places aspire to rise up to s***hole status.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: MechAg94 on July 28, 2019, 09:16:23 PM
In the lib world it's always someone else's fault.
QFT
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 29, 2019, 08:30:45 PM
Update, of a sort: https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/07/29/this-thread-wow-benny-johnson-toured-rep-cummings-baltimore-district-and-heres-what-he-found-out/
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on July 29, 2019, 08:41:55 PM
But wait, there's more

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The Top Ten cities for bed bug infestation for this one year period were:

    Baltimore
    Washington, D.C.
    Chicago
    Los Angeles
    Columbus, Ohio
    Cincinnati
    Detroit
    New York City
    San Francisco-San Jose-Oakland
    Dallas-Fort Worth

Baltimore Number One City in Country for Bed Bug Infestation
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/29/baltimore-number-one-city-in-country-for-bed-bug-infestation/
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: grampster on July 29, 2019, 09:05:15 PM
Update, of a sort: https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/07/29/this-thread-wow-benny-johnson-toured-rep-cummings-baltimore-district-and-heres-what-he-found-out/

Why do they continue to re elect that ahole.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: 230RN on July 30, 2019, 05:33:47 AM
Hawkmoon said,

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It's not just Cummings. In recent times, the mass media have so overused and abused the term 'hero' that it has pretty much become meaningless.

There was no memo and it's not just recent.

I don't think anyone will disagree with you that the term has been bandied about to the point that it can't be taken literally any more.

But I think what's tickling this audience is the fact that the President has "shot back" in kind to one of the leftie lockbrained lackies.  At least that's what's central to the incident, to me.

And see, even "shot back" is not taken literally.

So, you're right about "hero", but more fun can be had with the President's response to a typical leftie lockbrained attack.  IMHO

And to my mind, President Trump is likewise a "hero" in that loose sense, even though I'm not a lockbrained Trumpster.  

Terry
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: griz on July 30, 2019, 07:14:23 AM
I guess the free pass that Rep Cummings gets when he bad mouths the Border Patrol is just a reflection of the reporting bias.

Anyway, this comes to mind when I hear about how Baltimore is a fine place to live:

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-ci-cr-20190720-spdzol7pyzft3evewhta6f6l4i-story.html

Seems they greeted the new Police commissioner by robbing him.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on July 30, 2019, 09:41:45 AM
Where did it go?

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An aide to President Trump said that the Baltimore region has squandered billions of dollars in federal grants given by the administration.

‘President Trump has given $16billion in 2018 alone to Elijah Cummings’ district in federal grants,’ Lynne Patton, a regional administrator with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, told Fox News on Monday.

‘We have given more money in homeless funds to Baltimore than the last administration’ as well as ‘community development grants,’ according to Patton.

'President gave $16B in 2018 ALONE to Elijah Cummings's district in federal grants': Donald Trump's aide Lynne Patton asks what Baltimore has done with its financial help as POTUS' row with 'rat-infested' city escalates
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7299907/Donald-Trumps-aide-Lynne-Patton-asks-Baltimore-financial-help.html
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: DittoHead on July 30, 2019, 10:00:49 AM
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President Trump has given $16billion in 2018 alone to Elijah Cummings’ district in federal grants

Not a fan of this angle
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on July 30, 2019, 10:05:35 AM
I didn't really like the way they worded though I will say that site is no fan of Trump.
But the point is that's a lot of money that went where?
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on July 31, 2019, 10:37:22 AM
(https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/afb073119dAPR20190731064507.jpg)
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: MechAg94 on July 31, 2019, 12:18:14 PM
https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/the-pursuit-of-happiness/content/2019-07-30-video-rats-photo-bomb-camera-during-baltimore-news-cast-about-trump-tweets/

Video: Rats Photo-bomb Camera During Baltimore News Cast About Trump Tweets
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Chester32141 on July 31, 2019, 07:39:12 PM
This guys got a fun and creative theory about Baltimore and several other large cities … I wouldn't bet he's right but I wouldn't bet against him either …  [popcorn]

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And only since around April have many top Democrats in these big blue cities & Dem Congressmen & their lackeys inside the fed. agencies awakened to a NEW AND HORRIFYING DANGER.

"Holy sh1t! You mean they TRACKED that money we got in 2018 for our city, how we looted it?"!


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1156178389646155777.html
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on July 31, 2019, 10:24:28 PM
This guys got a fun and creative theory about Baltimore and several other large cities … I wouldn't bet he's right but I wouldn't bet against him either …  [popcorn]


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1156178389646155777.html

I hope he's right.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ron on August 01, 2019, 10:04:32 AM
The wording was perfect.

The message wasn't meant for you.



Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: WLJ on August 02, 2019, 10:51:26 AM
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"Baltimore Police are investigating after the home of Rep. Elijah Cummings was broken into early Saturday morning," CBS Baltimore reports. "The burglary occurred around 3:40 a.m. at his Baltimore home in the 2000 block of Madison Avenue."

Elijah Cummings' Baltimore Home Was Burglarized. Here's How President Trump Responded to the News.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/08/02/elijah-cummings-house-was-robbed-heres-how-president-trump-responded-n2551101

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmRCF6qigE5fWoJkxFFxUFCCitR0S8ibrclqIA6tcoUpsnDjAe)
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Ben on August 02, 2019, 12:40:32 PM
Elijah Cummings' Baltimore Home Was Burglarized. Here's How President Trump Responded to the News.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/08/02/elijah-cummings-house-was-robbed-heres-how-president-trump-responded-n2551101

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmRCF6qigE5fWoJkxFFxUFCCitR0S8ibrclqIA6tcoUpsnDjAe)

I read the first reports of that yesterday. They clearly stated that the burglary occurred at 0340, many hours before Trump made his Cummings comments, yet the left went wild with the statement that the burglary occurred because of Trump's comments. Also, later it was revealed that it was not Cummings residence, but his rental property.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 02, 2019, 02:19:56 PM
Elijah Cummings' Baltimore Home Was Burglarized. Here's How President Trump Responded to the News.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/08/02/elijah-cummings-house-was-robbed-heres-how-president-trump-responded-n2551101

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HUD Secretary Ben Carson, a Baltimore native, was in the city earlier this week and invited Congressman Cummings to tour a facility and discuss how to solve problems plaguing local communities. Cummings refused.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: Hawkmoon on August 03, 2019, 12:44:52 AM
Also, later it was revealed that it was not Cummings residence, but his rental property.

I'd like to know more about this rental property. I'll bet ol' Elijah's a slum lord. I'll bet he's got a bunch of run-down death trap apartments or duplexes, and he's probably got them all signed up for Section 8.
Title: Re: I didn't get the memo
Post by: HeroHog on August 03, 2019, 04:23:49 AM
https://youtu.be/ynqv8i88n1M