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Title: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 06, 2024, 03:39:17 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bodies-mexico-presumed-missing-surfers-201432409.html

My late wife was from South America. She has a cousin who isn't a native Mexican but who has been a professor at a university in Mexico City for years. When he visited us while my wife was still alive, she asked about us visiting him. He said, "You can come -- you're a Latina. [Hawkmoon] can't come -- Mexico City isn't safe for Americans."

My wife has been gone for ten years, so this was probably 15 years ago. Things haven't gotten any better in Mexico since then. It's looking now like all of Mexico isn't safe for Americans, not even Cancun or Baja.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: K Frame on May 06, 2024, 06:50:47 AM
My nephew and his wife honeymooned in Cancun last year. They were in an all-inclusive resort with security.

Still couldn't convince me to go under any circumstances.

Which is a pity, because I'd love to see the ruins throughout Central and South America.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: Ben on May 06, 2024, 07:54:13 AM
My nephew and his wife honeymooned in Cancun last year. They were in an all-inclusive resort with security.

Still couldn't convince me to go under any circumstances.

Which is a pity, because I'd love to see the ruins throughout Central and South America.

My nephew in law, who is Mexican (but Spanish Mexican so he's white bread looking), takes my grandniece to Cancun every year. They always stay at the same kind of fancy resort with security, but these days I worry every time they go.

I've done Mexico and Central America for dive trips and seeing the Mayan ruins, including going well outside of normal tourist destinations, but that was some years ago. I don't think I'd take the, while small, still much larger than it used to be, risk of doing those trips these days.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: K Frame on May 06, 2024, 08:42:00 AM
And, oddly enough, this dropped in Fox News today...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexican-authorities-reveal-bizarre-reason-they-believe-australians-american-were-murdered-surfing-vacation

Bodies of 3 surfers recovered from well in Baja California.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: BobR on May 06, 2024, 12:47:34 PM
And, oddly enough, this dropped in Fox News today...

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexican-authorities-reveal-bizarre-reason-they-believe-australians-american-were-murdered-surfing-vacation

Bodies of 3 surfers recovered from well in Baja California.

And yet in the picture of the burned out truck the tires and wheels are still on it. I wouldn't expect the truth out of the Mexican authorities any more than I would expect the sun to rise in the west.

I am surprised at where it happened, we used to teach people to hang glide on the dunes at Rosarita Beach and go to Ensenada for fish tacos and beer all the time. That stretch of Baja from Tijuana to Ensenada used to be very heavily visited by Americans. Now days I wouldn't set foot in Mexico, secure compound all exclusive resort or not.

bob
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: K Frame on May 06, 2024, 12:55:54 PM
I can't find any indication that that picture was supposed to be a picture of THE truck involved.

I think it's just a stock photo of a truck that looks like it's been involved in mayhem.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: BobR on May 06, 2024, 01:20:01 PM
I can't find any indication that that picture was supposed to be a picture of THE truck involved.

I think it's just a stock photo of a truck that looks like it's been involved in mayhem.

That could be but CNN is showing a much closer picture of the same truck. We may never know because this is already moving toward old news and will soon go away completely.

bob
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: K Frame on May 06, 2024, 01:22:00 PM
Interesting.

Maybe they decided that after the murder they'd better just burn the truck to get rid of any possible evidence? Taking the tires would definitely leave a possible trail that could be associated with the murderers.

Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 06, 2024, 02:26:23 PM
I haven't been there, but my employer was operating a reformer plant in Mexico.  I don't know where exactly.  The engineers who went down there had to have security wherever they went. 

Of course, at some point in the last year or two, the Govt of Mexico decided to take over the site and kicked my employer out. 
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: gunsmith on May 06, 2024, 04:38:49 PM
 Mexican friend at work, really a good guy.
 he is in his 50's and we were talking about social security.
 I asked him if he was going to go back to Mexico when he stops working.
He told me flat out, it is way to dangerous there.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: HankB on May 06, 2024, 10:42:11 PM
. . . Of course, at some point in the last year or two, the Govt of Mexico decided to take over the site and kicked my employer out.
I suppose it's too much to hope that they reduced the plant to rubble as the Govt of Mexico's goons were coming in the front door . . .
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 06, 2024, 10:45:25 PM
Of course, at some point in the last year or two, the Govt of Mexico decided to take over the site and kicked my employer out. 

... probably right after your employer got everything working.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: JN01 on May 07, 2024, 02:20:42 AM

Which is a pity, because I'd love to see the ruins throughout Central and South America.

If you want to see ruins, you could go to Detroit or San Francisco.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: K Frame on May 07, 2024, 08:07:01 AM
If you want to see ruins, you could go to Detroit or San Francisco.

True, but the ruins in central & South America aren't, as a general rule, covered in human *expletive deleted*it.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: Cliffh on May 08, 2024, 12:26:57 AM
Back in the late '70s used to go to Mexico for fishing & dive trips.  Didn't feel real safe even accompanied by 10 to 20 Marines, we'd detour around the major cities.  Sure as hell wouldn't go down there now.

BTW, the ocean water is beautiful down there!  Looking up from 100' depth could see the birds flying over. We might or might not have had lobster most every night while camping on the beach.  Verified that one lobster was so big the guy had to hug it to his chest to get it to the surface.  We didn't bother weighing it.  Did find a rattler sunning himself in a hip-hole I'd dug to sleep in the trip before.  Started using a cot after that.
Title: Re: Why would anyone voluntarily travel to Mexico?
Post by: JTHunter on May 08, 2024, 05:15:57 PM
In the early summer of '76, we had a busload of students on a month-long zoology field trip.  We went 9500 miles in 29 days, the driver, the Prof., his 11 y.o. son, and 36 students - co-ed.  >:D  :facepalm:
Three of those students were from Venezuela (1 M, 2F).  When we walked over the border into TJ (Prof.didn't want the trouble with taking the bus over), we had a problem coming back.  It turns out that one of the Venezuelan girls student visa had expired and several of the girls spent the night in TJ.  At this point, we were maybe halfway through the trip.  :facepalm: