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Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« on: September 20, 2018, 09:08:34 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-maryland-shooting/maryland-woman-kills-three-people-and-herself-in-warehouse-gun-rampage-idUSKCN1M0266?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%29

The shooting was done by a 26 year old woman and was precipitated by problems at work.  Perhaps our resident database expert on shootings can comment, but it is apparently pretty unusual for a woman to do this.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2018, 09:40:47 PM »
Anyone want to bet on the building being posted?
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2018, 11:23:17 PM »
I don't track the shooter's gender but I can say that I don't recall any incidents that I felt qualified for inclusion in my database that were perpetrated by women. Until now -- I have added this one to the database, and I'll await input as to whether or not the gun was obtained legally, and whether or not the facility was posted as a gun-free zone. (Or, if not posted, so construed by personnel policies. That's a distinction because, as an example, when I took a part-time job at Barnes & Noble, the store wasn't posted but the personnel manual said employees could not possess firearms on the premises. That's why I quit.)
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2018, 11:51:44 PM »
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-harford-shooting-20180920-story.html#

Hawkmoon, the Sun article states that the 9 mm Glock was registered to and owned by the shooter.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 12:21:13 AM »
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-harford-shooting-20180920-story.html#

Hawkmoon, the Sun article states that the 9 mm Glock was registered to and owned by the shooter.

Okay, that answers that. Still to be determined: Was the Rite Aid facility a "gun free" zone?

Interestingly (to me, anyway) -- one of the articles on this incident mentioned two other mass shootings, in both of which four people were wounded. One of them was in what was described in every article I could find as a "courthouse" in Masontown, PA. That's interesting, because PA state law is verey specific in that courtrooms are gun free zones, but if the courtroom(s) and associated offices are in buildings housing other facilities, only the court portion is gun free. I was finally able to figure out from photos that the building is the Masontown Borough Municipal Center, and the court is a local magistrate's court. The shooting occurred in the front lobby of the building, not in the courtroom or the judge's office.

So, either by accident or design, the articles (many articles) reported the incident in a way that implied the shooting took place in a gun free area when, in fact, it didn't.

From the Sun arrticle:

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“Three workplace active shooting attacks in just the last 24 hours should spark outrage in every American,” former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords said in a statement Thursday. Giffords was shot in the head at a “Congress on Your Corner” event outside a grocery store in the Tucson area in 2011 and has become an anti-gun violence activist.

“If gun violence feels like it's become an everyday occurrence, that's because it is,” she said. “But every time you hear news of another shooting, remind yourself that this level of gun violence is not normal. No other developed nation experiences this kind of daily heartbreak and horror.”

Shooting are still not really "everyday" occurances in the U.S. but they are too frequent. But ... before we blame it all on eeeevil GUNZ!, let's stop and remember that prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968, prior to the Lautenberg Amendment, prior to the federal and all the state anti- "assault weapon" laws, Americans could buy all the guns they wanted anywhere and any time they wanted. And guess what? We didn't have mass shootings "every day." The problem is not the guns, therefor the problem must be something else. And it's figuring out what that something else is (or are, since it's likely not a single factor) that should be the focus of legislative intentions, not prohibiting law-abiding people from exercising a Constitutionally-guaranteed right.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 12:32:01 AM »
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-harford-shooting-20180920-story.html#

Hawkmoon, the Sun article states that the 9 mm Glock was registered to and owned by the shooter.

But was it [ominous tone] military-grade?
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 07:47:35 AM »
The evil National Rifle Association is the real perpetrator here!

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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 09:46:18 AM »
The only other mass shooting I can recall being committed by a woman is this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting


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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 10:51:56 AM »
As to whether the building was posted or not...It was in Maryland.  The entire state is pretty much posted.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 11:01:16 AM »


From the Sun arrticle:

Shooting are still not really "everyday" occurances in the U.S. but they are too frequent. But ... before we blame it all on eeeevil GUNZ!, let's stop and remember that prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968, prior to the Lautenberg Amendment, prior to the federal and all the state anti- "assault weapon" laws, Americans could buy all the guns they wanted anywhere and any time they wanted. And guess what? We didn't have mass shootings "every day." The problem is not the guns, therefor the problem must be something else. And it's figuring out what that something else is (or are, since it's likely not a single factor) that should be the focus of legislative intentions, not prohibiting law-abiding people from exercising a Constitutionally-guaranteed right.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2018, 01:52:35 PM »
There are a number of female members of the NRA, and female politicians who take their money. As we know, all of them are responsible for gun violence, domestic violence, global warming, the lack of creativity in Hollywood, the declining bee population, etc.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 02:25:36 PM »
^^^Declining bees are the worst.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2018, 02:40:46 PM »
As to whether the building was posted or not...It was in Maryland.  The entire state is pretty much posted.

Yeah, I know ... but that's conjecture. I don't want to compile statistics based on conjecture. One of my points of data extraction is shootings in gun-free zones vs. shootings in non-gun-free zones. For the statistic to be useful, it can't be based on guesswork.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2018, 02:42:43 PM »
^^^Declining bees are the worst.

Just tell them to get their lazy bee asses out of their cute little bee chaise longues and get back to work.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2018, 03:07:19 PM »
Supposedly the murderer was a transsexual.

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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2018, 03:26:04 PM »
Just tell them to get their lazy bee asses out of their cute little bee chaise longues and get back to work.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2018, 03:27:15 PM »
Supposedly the murderer was a transsexual.

Have a link for that?

If true, we suddenly cross off the "Mass Shooting Performed by a Woman" and it becomes far less unusual.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2018, 04:54:48 PM »
Yeah, I know ... but that's conjecture. I don't want to compile statistics based on conjecture. One of my points of data extraction is shootings in gun-free zones vs. shootings in non-gun-free zones. For the statistic to be useful, it can't be based on guesswork.

Hawkmoon, will this do? https://content.riteaid.com/www.riteaid.com/w-content/images/company/governance/code_of_ethics.pdf

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Weapons and workplace violence

Associates may not carry weapons or explosives on
Company time or on the Company’s premises. Similarly,
the Company will not tolerate any level of violence in the
workplace or in any work-related setting. Violations of this
policy must be referred to the associate’s supervisor
immediately.
For further information regarding the Company’s policy
concerning weapons and workplace violence, please refer
to Policy 2.1.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2018, 04:55:50 PM »
Have a link for that?

If true, we suddenly cross off the "Mass Shooting Performed by a Woman" and it becomes far less unusual.

You mean to say, that transsexuals commit more mass murders than women ??
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2018, 06:19:34 PM »
Hawkmoon, will this do? https://content.riteaid.com/www.riteaid.com/w-content/images/company/governance/code_of_ethics.pdf


That'll do 'er. Gun-free zone it is.

And, of course, it worked just as well in this instance as it works everywhere else.

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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2018, 06:29:40 PM »
I don't track the shooter's gender but I can say that I don't recall any incidents.....

I'm pretty sure the shooter in this case doesn't track their own gender either....
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2018, 06:40:32 PM »
The only other mass shooting I can recall being committed by a woman is this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama_in_Huntsville_shooting


Right you are. That one is in my database, but I had forgotten that it was perpetrated by a woman. As I commented, I don't track the shooters' gender. I'm just looking to compile statistics showing that declaring a place to be "gun free" while not taking any steps to ensure that guns can't be brought in is worse than counterproductive. At the moment, discounting 9/11 because it didn't involve firearms, that count stands at

  • Killed by guns in non-gun-free zones -- 208
  • Killed by guns in gun-free zones -- 429
  • Wounded/injured by guns in non-gun-free zones -- 225
  • Wounded/injured by guns in gun-free zones -- 1330

There are still five events for which I have been unable to determine the gun-free status of the location. Those five won't make a major difference either way. The trend is obvious and overwhelming. Declaring a place "gun free" does nothing to prevent shootings in that place.
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2018, 06:54:04 PM »
Supposedly the murderer was a transsexual.

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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2018, 09:09:23 PM »
Yeah, this one is gonna get rabbit holed pretty quick, definitely does not fit the standard narrative.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/21/maryland-rite-aid-distribution-center-employee-shot-herself-twice-in-head-diagnosed-with-mental-illness-in-2016.html
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Re: Unusual mass shooting in Maryland: perpetrated by a woman
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2018, 09:14:32 PM »
You mean people who can't look at their junk and determine their gender have other deep seated mental problems? Racist!

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