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Title: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MillCreek on May 19, 2018, 06:21:05 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/eastside/1-dead-1-injured-in-cougar-attack-on-eastside/

Just one of the reasons that I keep a lightweight .357 in the handlebar bag of my bicycles.  I am pretty certain I have ridden my MTB in this very area; it is a popular MTB trail.
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: Devonai on May 19, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
A Magnum of Chardonnay usually keeps 'em tame.
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: 230RN on May 19, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
Debatable, but from what I've read about their attack mode (from the rear), a straight-blade or switchblade knife might be a better defense than a gun.

Now, if you see it first, a gunshot would probably scare it away, disunirregardless of caliber.

What?  You don't carry a gun?  What's the matter with you anyhow?

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: French G. on May 19, 2018, 09:15:46 PM
A Magnum of Chardonnay usually keeps 'em tame.

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Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: Angel Eyes on May 19, 2018, 10:32:36 PM
A Magnum of Chardonnay usually keeps 'em tame.

Paging KD5NRH ...
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: BobR on May 20, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
1. Not the eastside, bunch of westside elitists who think the state stops at the Cascades. ;)

2. I wonder if they tried to outrun the cougar once they noticed it and it moved off a ways, which would trigger the "fleeing prey" instinct in the cougar?

3. I think the correct response may have been to place the bike between them and the cougar and be more assertive, fleeing (running) is by far and away the wrong thing to do.

4. I always have a cougar tag with me when predator hunting. Using a call for coyotes can also bring in other critters looking for food.

5. Cougars are thin skinned, any caliber is usually good, from 22 Mag to whatever you want to use. I hunt 'yotes with a 22-250 and a 220 Swift and usually carry a 10mm pistol so I don't feel at all undergunned with the critters found in the PNW woods (I guess to be 100% correct it would be the Inland Northwest), except maybe brown bear but those are pretty rare here, if here at all. When mushroom hunting or huckleberry picking I opt for a 12 gauge with slugs. I have yet to have a mushroom attack me after a well placed 12g round.

bob


Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: KD5NRH on May 20, 2018, 02:02:15 PM
Paging KD5NRH ...

I prefer the sugar mama type that provide their own booze.

As for the caliber I use, well, that's getting a little personal, isn't it?
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MillCreek on May 20, 2018, 02:14:01 PM
I prefer the sugar mama type that provide their own booze.

As for the caliber I use, well, that's getting a little personal, isn't it?

Just say 'Magnum'.
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: BobR on May 20, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
Speaking of cougars, this is a picture of our very local 4 legged cougar from a few nights ago. This is right on the edge of our development.

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2F0603%2FBob8251%2FRandomness%2Fneigborhood%2520cougar_zpsj35umpx4.jpg&hash=7e3efddc9cf4eacea1b371079cbf92c07ebd2d55)


bob
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 20, 2018, 05:29:53 PM
Different people go after different species of wildlife.

Cougar:
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.HOGh8_JmKfqG4OuWED9SQgHaFj%26pid%3D15.1&f=1)


Cougar:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30743354_1539195479535739_479242032959717376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=312682e0a319fde467e0d5f7837bac3b&oe=5B77B6F0)
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MillCreek on May 20, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/

The cougar may have been starving when it attacked the cyclists.
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: sumpnz on May 21, 2018, 01:18:31 AM
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/

The cougar may have been starving when it attacked the cyclists.

They really need to bring back hound hunting for cougars in this state, and up the quota for hunter kills, at least for the toms if not also the females.
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 21, 2018, 09:18:16 AM
They really need to bring back hound hunting for cougars in this state, and up the quota for hunter kills, at least for the toms if not also the females.
I would think the cougars would add to the excitement of cycling in some areas.  Adding hounds to the mix might be a little too exciting for the cyclists. 
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 21, 2018, 09:19:21 AM
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/two-attacked-by-cougar-identified-wildlife-officials-say-predator-was-emaciated/

The cougar may have been starving when it attacked the cyclists.
When will the local cougars be added to the welfare/food stamp roles?  Don't worry, feeding them doesn't encourage the wrong behavior.  Just make sure the people bringing the are riding bicycles and wearing safety helmets. 
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: brimic on May 21, 2018, 11:51:25 AM
We had one in my neighborhood a few months back, probably strayed from up north. Was spotted < mile from my house, wife saw it about 5 miles south of my house the day before it was spotted closer.
Title: Re: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: lupinus on May 21, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
What Caliber for Cougar
On average something in the 150mm range, as I recall.


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Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: MechAg94 on May 22, 2018, 08:58:43 AM
Speaking of animals following you......

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/elyria-ohio-man-calls-police-after-pig-follows-him-home-2018-05-20/?__twitter_impression=true
Ohio man calls police on pig following him home


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Police in Elyria, Ohio, say they thought the unidentified man must have been drunk or hallucinating when he called for backup after failing to shake the swine.


The North Ridgeville Police Department said they received the call at 5:26 a.m. Saturday morning. Upon arrival, they discovered the man, who was totally sober but still being followed by the pig near the city's Amtrak station.

(https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/05/20/cf1d2778-1cce-4ff6-b45d-743b8f282c6b/thumbnail/640x410/250d353d5e882ea251be3b8cfa42813d/pig.jpg)
Yes, that is the pig sitting in the back of a police car.  It was someone's pet. 
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: BobR on May 22, 2018, 10:06:59 AM
^^^^

I have had nights like that but I am not sure if the pig followed me home or I invited it. It always made for an awkward next morning!!!  :O


bob
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: cordex on May 22, 2018, 01:09:57 PM
Locally there was a potbellied pig that the Sheriff's department rounded up.  I asked if they used the opportunity for a BBQ.
The response: "We wouldn't hurt one of our own."
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: Scout26 on May 22, 2018, 05:40:08 PM
^^^^

I have had nights like that but I am not sure if the pig followed me home or I invited it. It always made for an awkward next morning!!!  :O


bob

It's hard to do the Walk of Shame from your own home....
Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: Fly320s on May 22, 2018, 05:57:32 PM
Is that swine under arrest?  Is he a pig in a poke?

Title: Re: What caliber for cougar?
Post by: grampster on May 22, 2018, 10:28:33 PM
Must be hard to drive that cruiser with all that bacon smell in there.