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A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« on: February 01, 2022, 06:55:34 PM »
I guess this is a guy who stands behind his product. They claim 9mm@1400fps. I would have liked to see him lift his shirt so we could see the damage, and I'm surprised he didn't crack a rib.

https://youtu.be/e5BL5oJ05xk
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2022, 10:48:28 PM »
He was hit below the rib cage.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2022, 11:03:31 PM »
Guy from Second Chance used to shoot himself frequently to demonstrate his faith in his vests.

I guess a severe bruise or even a couple of cracked ribs is preferable to a sucking chest wound.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2022, 02:09:08 AM »
Rich used to host some pretty interesting shoots... I need to go bother JR sometime soon.
 
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2022, 09:02:30 AM »
Barely relevant and barely obligatory:

https://youtu.be/LBPeKADIrIc  (0:30)
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2022, 09:18:36 AM »
This Is What It's Like To Be Shot At With an AK-47 in a Mercedes-Benz!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i5d5toEDk
Video from the inside also.  No spalling at all.

Similar video with a test rig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZEwSQlL88
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2022, 09:24:27 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on February 02, 2022, 09:18:36 AM
This Is What It's Like To Be Shot At With an AK-47 in a Mercedes-Benz!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8i5d5toEDk
Video from the inside also.  No spalling at all.

Similar video with a test rig.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZEwSQlL88

The janitor at the end was a nice touch.  :laugh:

I know little about bullet resistant glass. I wonder how many shots in the same spot it takes for failure? It looks like they got quite a few into a smaller area.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2022, 09:45:33 AM »
Quote from: Ben on February 02, 2022, 09:24:27 AM
The janitor at the end was a nice touch.  :laugh:

I know little about bullet resistant glass. I wonder how many shots in the same spot it takes for failure? It looks like they got quite a few into a smaller area.
I would say not a great many, but for cars like that, I doubt they are intended to stick around once gunfire starts.

I have always been curious how many rounds even steel armor would take in the same spot.  Even with the AR500 steel plates I have, 5.56 M855 rounds will nick the plate a little.  I would be curious how many rounds it would take in the same spot to tear it up.  With true AP ammo, it may not be that many.  I remember as a kid wondering if concentrated 50 caliber fire could eventually penetrate tank armor. 
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2022, 09:47:11 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on February 02, 2022, 09:45:33 AM
I would say not a great many, but for cars like that, I doubt they are intended to stick around once gunfire starts.

I have always been curious how many rounds even steel armor would take in the same spot.  Even with the AR500 steel plates I have, 5.56 M855 rounds will nick the plate a little.  I would be curious how many rounds it would take in the same spot to tear it up.  With true AP ammo, it may not be that many.  I remember as a kid wondering if concentrated 50 caliber fire could eventually penetrate tank armor.

Mrgunsandgear does a bunch of test to destruction videos for various armor. There may be one there with the AR500 steel.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2022, 09:48:03 AM »
There was a brake shop here that stood behind every brake job they did.
They would have been crazy to stand in front of one.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2022, 10:05:27 AM »
Quote from: HankB on February 01, 2022, 11:03:31 PM
Guy from Second Chance used to shoot himself frequently to demonstrate his faith in his vests.

I guess a severe bruise or even a couple of cracked ribs is preferable to a sucking chest wound.

All chest wounds suck.
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Re: A Guy Who Stands Behind His Product
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2022, 01:49:41 PM »
Saflex was one of the product lines of the Monsanto Chemical Group (spun off into Solutia, and then purchased by Eastman). When I was working on the spinoff, they were also working with outfits that made "bulletproof" glass. They did ballistic testing, along with explosive testing. Stuff like hand grenades. One of the guys had a .38 Super round halfway through a chunk of the stuff on his desk. Pretty cool.
 
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