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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Brad Johnson on March 13, 2018, 05:20:20 PM
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Flight attendant forces pet owner to stow the carrier, animal inside, in an overhead bin for the duration of a four hour flight. Pet dies. Lots of fail on the cabin crews' part but United, to their credit seems to be learning from past mistakes and has stepped up and claimed full responsibility.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/03/13/dog-dies-on-united-flight-after-flight-attendant-forced-passenger-to-put-carrier-in-overhead-bin.html
Brad
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Great. They claimed responsibility. That doesn't bring the dog back.
When Castle key brought Mason back from Denmark he was traveling with him in a soft carrier. He had to attend to a necessity and the flight attendant agreed to sit with Mason. When Castle key got back the flight attendants had let Mason out of the carrier and we're letting him run up and down the aisle of the airplane.
That's how it should be handled.
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Not content with breaking guitars (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo) and beating up passengers (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRhnBsiIjqQ), UAL has moved on to killing puppies.
Great PR move, guys.
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What a horrible story. While United accepted full responsibility, the owner certainly failed this poor dog.
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What a horrible story. While United accepted full responsibility, the owner certainly failed this poor dog.
I, sort of, get going along with what the flight attendant demanded; especially with some of the recent stories. But it doesn't sound like any objections were raised. Doesn't even sound like she checked on him at all the entire time. People constantly get up to get things from the bin, why would she not at least check on him when they heard him whining at one point!? ???
:'(
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Why would the dog have died? Compression?
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Likely asphyxiated.
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And today the sent the wrong dog to Japan.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/14/wtf-another-major-dog-mishap-but-at-least-united-didnt-kill-this-one/
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And today the sent the wrong dog to Japan.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/14/wtf-another-major-dog-mishap-but-at-least-united-didnt-kill-this-one/
If United were smart (they're not, so it won't happen), they'd give the dog some pampering in Japan and take pics of him at a restaurant eating Kobe beef or sitting in a hot tub or something of the like before sending him back.
"Hey, we messed up, but Rin-Tin-Tin got the trip of a lifetime out of it!"
Instead, they're sending him to a vet and sending him home. Well done, morons.
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If United were smart (they're not, so it won't happen), they'd give the dog some pampering in Japan and take pics of him at a restaurant eating Kobe beef or sitting in a hot tub or something of the like before sending him back.
"Hey, we messed up, but Rin-Tin-Tin got the trip of a lifetime out of it!"
Instead, they're sending him to a vet and sending him home. Well done, morons.
Japan has a six month dog import/quarantine process, so Kobe beef is probably out. Delivering him back as quickly and healthy as possible is probably their best bet.
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They haven't gotten the dog home safely yet.
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They haven't gotten the dog home safely yet.
Good point.
And the pooch won't fit in the overhead bin.
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And the pooch won't fit in the overhead bin.
That's what the vet is for; after they remove the legs and tail, it'll fit.
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"Welcome to United Airlines. May the odds be ever in your favor."
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"Welcome to United Airlines. May the odds be ever in your favor."
:laugh:
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This is interesting. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senators-introduce-wooff-act-to-protect-animals-on-planes/ar-BBKgPaJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
In 2017 there were 24 animal deaths on "major airlines", no idea what would be considered a major airline. But 18 were just United. That could mean either United really sucks with animal handling, OR, more people with animals use them do to ticket prices.
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This is interesting. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senators-introduce-wooff-act-to-protect-animals-on-planes/ar-BBKgPaJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp
In 2017 there were 24 animal deaths on "major airlines", no idea what would be considered a major airline. But 18 were just United. That could mean either United really sucks with animal handling, OR, more people with animals use them do to ticket prices.
Oh for crying out loud. More government is the obvious answer.
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“Major airline” is defined as an airline having annual revenue of $1 billion or more.
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Oh for crying out loud. More government is the obvious answer.
Yeah, I would think the legal liability would be enough to get this issue solved.
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Yeah, I would think the legal liability would be enough to get this issue solved.
NO! MORE GOVURMINT!
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Please, no more government. It's enough of a PITA as it is to ship a dog. :facepalm:
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United flew the German Shepherd back from Japan on a corporate jet. That's been taken care of, but ...
... In other news, United has now had a third incident involving a canine.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/united-airlines-flight-diverted-dog-mistakenly-plane/story?id=53806484
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NO! MORE GOVURMINT!
I was referring to the existing legal liability since they will likely pay a lot for the dead dog regardless of what new laws are passed or not passed.
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On the dog that was flown to Japan, since it left the country and apparently landed in another country, wouldn't it have to go through whatever quarantine procedures apply upon reentering the US? I guess United plowed right through that and everyone made exceptions.
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On the dog that was flown to Japan, since it left the country and apparently landed in another country, wouldn't it have to go through whatever quarantine procedures apply upon reentering the US? I guess United plowed right through that and everyone made exceptions.
If it never left the Japanese airport I don't think it ever technically entered Japan. ??? I don't think there's much of a quarantine procedures for coming from Japan to the US either way.
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If it never left the Japanese airport I don't think it ever technically entered Japan. ??? I don't think there's much of a quarantine procedures for coming from Japan to the US either way.
Check the dog’s passport. No immigration stamp = no entry. =D
In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane. I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs. I find it funny.
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In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane. I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs. I find it funny.
Interesting observation. I suppose the next step would be if you take off from a U.S. airport, fly a route that transits Canadian air space and land at a U.S. airport, you would have technically "left" the United States so you (and all the passengers!) would have to clear customs and immigration when you land.
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Check the dog’s passport. No immigration stamp = no entry. =D
In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane. I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs. I find it funny.
When I flew back to the states on a C-130, it made a stop in Reykjavik, Iceland. (cargo off-load/on-load, fuel, and crew change) We weren't allowed to get off the plane since we did not have passports/visas to be there. (Germany to RAF Upper Heyford to Iceland to Loring AFB in Maine to Glenview Naval Air Station near Chicago- 28 hours)
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Interesting observation. I suppose the next step would be if you take off from a U.S. airport, fly a route that transits Canadian air space and land at a U.S. airport, you would have technically "left" the United States so you (and all the passengers!) would have to clear customs and immigration when you land.
No. We often fly through Canadian airspace from Boston to the west coast. We never clear immigration for that. Must be an island rule.
Another funny thing is flying out of the USVI. It is a US territory, but we clear Immigration when leaving because USVI is outside the exclusion zone, or something like that.
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When I flew back to the states on a C-130, it made a stop in Reykjavik, Iceland. (cargo off-load/on-load, fuel, and crew change) We weren't allowed to get off the plane since we did not have passports/visas to be there. (Germany to RAF Upper Heyford to Iceland to Loring AFB in Maine to Glenview Naval Air Station near Chicago- 28 hours)
And yet, on trips to and from Russia, I've made stops and even changed planes in Stockholm and Copenhagen, and didn't have to clear customs (since I didn't have my luggage) or immigration (I never left the secure side of the airport). When I shipped out to Vietnam, the MAC flight made a refueling stop in Japan. We were allowed off the aircraft, but only to sit around on the tarmac until the bird was ready to take wing again.
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And yet, on trips to and from Russia, I've made stops and even changed planes in Stockholm and Copenhagen, and didn't have to clear customs (since I didn't have my luggage) or immigration (I never left the secure side of the airport). When I shipped out to Vietnam, the MAC flight made a refueling stop in Japan. We were allowed off the aircraft, but only to sit around on the tarmac until the bird was ready to take wing again.
Every country has their own rules. When I fly to Grand Cayman, I fly in, but deadhead out. Even though I never enter the country, Cayman makes us two deadheading pilots walk through immigration/customs and then regular security before we can get back on the plane. Cayman never checks our passports. Only my company scans my passport as I get my seat assignment.
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Every country has their own rules. When I fly to Grand Cayman, I fly in, but deadhead out. Even though I never enter the country, Cayman makes us two deadheading pilots walk through immigration/customs and then regular security before we can get back on the plane. Cayman never checks our passports. Only my company scans my passport as I get my seat assignment.
Deadhead?
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Deadhead?
Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.
Brad
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Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.
Brad
So it WASN'T a reference to democrats? >:D [popcorn]
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Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.
Brad
Perfect description.
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Deadhead?
Overpaid ballast.
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Deadhead?
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Overpaid ballast.
Never overpaid. I have to sit next to people like you lot.
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Never overpaid. I have to sit next to people like you lot.
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Never overpaid. I have to sit next to people like you lot.
Your own fault for flying stuff too little to have a proper crew rest compartment they can lock you into and not have to look at you.
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Your own fault for flying stuff too little to have a proper crew rest compartment they can lock you into and not have to look at you.
The cockpit is my crew rest compartment. What do you think I do up there? Actual work? Ha!