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Title: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: MillCreek on March 27, 2020, 09:20:59 PM
So in the truck, the wife and the dog both ride in the front passenger seat. I would like to buckle the dog seat belt strap and my wife's seat belt into the seat belt receiver.  I thought there were such things as a double seat belt receiver that buckles into the original seat belt receiver. allowing you to snap two seat belts in at the same time.  I have not found such an item on Google, Amazon or JC Whitney.  Am I imagining there is such a thing?  If you have any ideas or know where to find this item, please chime in.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Jim147 on March 27, 2020, 09:32:39 PM
Maybe there used to be but iirc back in early '90's DOT got pissy which SFI.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: charby on March 27, 2020, 10:19:00 PM
Bench seat in your truck?
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Post by: French G. on March 28, 2020, 12:43:51 AM
Leave your wife at home! Gosh you guys are slow.  =D
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Post by: Hawkmoon on March 28, 2020, 02:44:25 AM
So in the truck, the wife and the dog both ride in the front passenger seat. I would like to buckle the dog seat belt strap and my wife's seat belt into the seat belt receiver.  I thought there were such things as a double seat belt receiver that buckles into the original seat belt receiver. allowing you to snap two seat belts in at the same time.  I have not found such an item on Google, Amazon or JC Whitney.  Am I imagining there is such a thing?  If you have any ideas or know where to find this item, please chime in.

Wouldn't it be easier and better just to install another seatbelt?
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: MillCreek on March 28, 2020, 10:00:29 AM
Leave your wife at home! Gosh you guys are slow.  =D

I have discovered that both the wife and the dog get pissy if I ask one of them to ride in the back.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: charby on March 28, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
Wouldn't it be easier and better just to install another seatbelt?

I was just thinking that, get a short end, remove the bolt on the existing passenger seat belt, install both short ends. Like the old bench seats with the middle seat belt had.

Unfortunately probably need to remove the passenger seat to get to it.

Or build a harness loop that loops around the short end of the passenger seat belt (when buckled) with a seat belt buckle on the end for the dog.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: zxcvbob on March 28, 2020, 11:03:09 AM
I was just thinking that, get a short end, remove the bolt on the existing passenger seat belt, install both short ends. Like the old bench seats with the middle seat belt had.

Unfortunately probably need to remove the passenger seat to get to it.

Or build a harness loop that loops around the short end of the passenger seat belt (when buckled) with a seat belt buckle on the end for the dog.

Might need to get a slightly longer bolt to be safe; make sure it's the right grade.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: charby on March 28, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Might need to get a slightly longer bolt to be safe; make sure it's the right grade.

And it has a huge torx head, at least in my experiences
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Kingcreek on March 28, 2020, 12:06:52 PM
I can’t be helpful here but do people really buckle their dogs in? I’ve never seen such.
I’ve logged many thousands of miles with canines and except for long distance transport of hunting dogs in bed mounted crates, they usually rode happily in the super cab rear or the back of a Jeep. In fact when I retired my truck after 21 years everything behind the front seats looked like a yellow lab turned inside out.

In 1998 I had 1500 miles on my 99 F250 and I had an air kennel wedged behind the seat and all my hunting gear packed in the back of the cab on a solo trip. I hit a deer at night in the middle of South Dakota going 80mph. It slammed the front bumper went under me and pickled the tie rod causing severe toe in. I went into a slide, came up on 2 wheels, spun through the median and across the oncoming lanes in a full 360 and a 180. When I finally got stopped and the dust was settling something warm was dripping on my head. I reached back and the dog licked my hand. I turned on the lights expecting blood but my travel mug of coffee had bounced from the cup holder hard enough to break on the overhead console and it was coffee dripping off the headliner. Made me glad the dog was secured as much as she was in the crate.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2020, 12:08:56 PM
I can’t be helpful here but do people really buckle their dogs in? I’ve never seen such.


I make mine ride on the roof.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Doggy Daddy on March 28, 2020, 12:36:10 PM
It really kills me to see people driving their car with their dog in their lap. Do they have any idea what's going to happen to that dog if the airbag goes off?

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Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: MillCreek on March 28, 2020, 12:57:55 PM
The veterinarian that we use is also an EMT-I for the local fire district, and she has had me do some risk management consulting for their medical officer.  She says that as a result of her EMS experience and what she sees in her clinic in terms of dog trauma from car accidents, she is a big fan of transporting dogs in a crate or with a seat belt restraint.  So the dog wears a harness, and we have a restraining strap that clips onto the harness and then buckles into the seatbelt. 
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Post by: Kingcreek on March 28, 2020, 02:49:33 PM
That makes sense.
I never liked seeing dogs loose in the open bed of a truck or in unsecured crates.
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Post by: charby on March 28, 2020, 02:57:18 PM
I make mine ride on the roof.

When did you become a Mormon? Idaho change you?
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Post by: Kingcreek on March 28, 2020, 03:10:42 PM
A well known local farmer with a lot of farm ground scattered around always had a cattle dog with him. The dog would ride with his back legs on the truck tool box and his front legs on the roof or often on the hood. A county deputy finally stopped him and chewed him out. Now the dog rides in the cab with his head out the window.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: RocketMan on March 28, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
Having seen dogs come out of truck beds on a turn, mine never ride loose back there.  We've used a seat belt adapter harness for Rocket from time to time.  He took to it pretty well on our cross-country trip when we moved here (NC) from Oregon in early 2014.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 28, 2020, 04:21:37 PM
So the dog wears a harness, and we have a restraining strap that clips onto the harness and then buckles into the seatbelt. 

Makes sense. I would go to a junkyard and get an extra female seatbelt for your make of vehicle, and just bolt it in in tandem with the front passenger belt. You shouldn't even need a new bolt. I'm pretty certain that rear seats, which have the center belts sharing the same bolts as the inner sides of the outboard belts, don't take a longer bolt. There's enough crush space in the carpeting to make it possible.

Technically, I believe it's illegal to install used seatbelts, and some yards may not sell them. Since you only want it for a dog, and you wouldn't be installing the matching male end for a human passenger, they might make an exception.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Ben on March 28, 2020, 04:26:28 PM
When did you become a Mormon? Idaho change you?

Ha ha. That was so long ago I wasn't sure anyone would get it.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 28, 2020, 08:43:00 PM
Ha ha. That was so long ago I wasn't sure anyone would get it.  :laugh:

Get what? COVID-19?  ???
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: MillCreek on March 28, 2020, 09:06:18 PM
Get what? COVID-19?  ???

Mitt Romney and his dog.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 29, 2020, 08:27:40 AM
I like the idea of just adding another seat belt buckle.  It's pretty basic.
Title: Re: Double seat belt receiver or adapter
Post by: Kingcreek on March 29, 2020, 04:12:09 PM
I was cleaning and detailing the Jeep today when I noticed just how many anchor points there are these days for baby seats. And then I was thinking about this thread....
Couldn’t you just rig an HK style sling clip or similar to clip the canine harness in to an existing ring?
Simpler than messing about with seat belts and such if there is one of those loops near the right place. There seems to be a dozen or so scattered throughout my rubicon.