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Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« on: August 15, 2007, 01:20:49 PM »
I am thinking that they are dream candidates for protect our RKBA

 
Huckabee: http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Mike_Huckabee_Gun_Control.htm
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My position on the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution is as clear for me as the position held by most journalists toward the 1st Amendment. While I do not consider myself a "gun nut," I proudly own a variety of firearms and enjoy hunting as well as sports shooting. But even if I were not a hunter or did not enjoy shooting, I would still be a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment right of Americans to own firearms for self-protection and as a matter of principle.

There are 700,000 physicians in the US and the number of accidental deaths caused by them per year is 120,, making the accidental death rate per physician 17%. Using the same logic, there are about 80 million gun owners, and the number of accidental gun deaths per year among all age groups is 1,500. The same calculation reveals the number of accidental deaths per gun owner to be 0.00188%. In other words, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 more times more dangerous than gun owners. Yet, I hear no one suggesting we ban doctors.

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Ron Paul: http://www.paulonpaper.com/topic.php?id=17 (<---Lots of his stuff here)
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"The Second amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny."

Pretty straight forward.

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Now this guy is a nightmare:

Barack Obama: http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
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# Principles that Obama supports on gun issues:Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons.
# Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
# Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2007, 01:24:01 PM »
Ron who?
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2007, 01:33:31 PM »
"Dream Candidates" get their name from the fact that anyone thinking they have a shot at winning are merely dreaming.
ANd any candidate for the GOP will need to be pro 2A to get the nomination (you listening, Rudy?).
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2007, 01:37:15 PM »
I listen to 'Err America' some.  Ron Paul is becoming a favorite there, too.  shocked

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2007, 01:59:38 PM »
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you listening, Rudy

Yeah he better hurry up and change his views.  rolleyes


I may have opened a can of worms saying the word "dream".

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2007, 02:33:52 PM »
"Dream Candidates" get their name from the fact that anyone thinking they have a shot at winning are merely dreaming.
ANd any candidate for the GOP will need to be pro 2A to get the nomination (you listening, Rudy?).

Eh, McCain is never going to make it.  Romney is doubtful.  And the core of the GOP doesn't care too much for Rudy.  I do ponder if the NYFD can successfully Swift-Boat him.  I personally am rooting for Ron Paul, but he realistically doesn't have a chance.

So we're probably looking at 4 years of Hillary or Obama.  And as much attention as Obama gets, he's young for the job.  I suspect Hillary will mop the floor with him and the polls are pointing at it unfortunately.  I suspect Hillary will be less militantly anti-RKBA than Obama.  Granted, that's like saying I'd rather be hung than impaled on a rusty 6 foot spork. 

Oy, I have a headache.  Any realistic outcome, America has lost.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2007, 03:10:47 PM »
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So we're probably looking at 4 years of Hillary or Obama.
Thanks to GWB and the current crop of Republicans.  angry  Don't count Edwards out either; the left seems to be rallying around him right now.

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2007, 04:49:05 PM »
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I personally am rooting for Ron Paul, but he realistically doesn't have a chance.

Thank god everyone else doesnt feel the same as you do. You should vote for who you want to be president.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 06:06:23 PM »
Nobody name 'Huckabee' will be elected POTUS.  Trust me on this.  I live on the west coast.  The west and east coasts decide who is elected and who is not.  Y'all in 'flyover territory' are just so much filler. No offense.  smiley

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 06:39:45 PM »
Sure thing Riley.

As I recall, the entire West coast voted for the loser last time, as did most of the East coast.

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 07:14:07 PM »
Meh. Huckabee stinks. I love my firearms, but I'm not a one-issue voter.

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2007, 07:17:05 PM »
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Nobody name 'Huckabee' will be elected POTUS.

Yeah, the name itself is a serious drawback.  That alone could lose him the nomination, to say nothing of the actual election.  But as names go, it sure beats "Clinton" or "Bush." 
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 03:23:25 AM »
I think the nickname "The Huckster" will become more broadly known and will stick, ruining his chances.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2007, 05:01:09 AM »
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I personally am rooting for Ron Paul, but he realistically doesn't have a chance.

Thank god everyone else doesnt feel the same as you do. You should vote for who you want to be president.


How about if we don't think he has a chance, AND we don't want him as president? 

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2007, 05:07:00 AM »

How about if we don't think he has a chance, AND we don't want him as president? 

Yeah but, theres a whole lot of people on Ell and Pee who like him......
but I can't back that up. grin
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2007, 05:36:30 AM »
Huckabee is starting to interest me, based on the fact that he actually answers questions instead of obfuscating and equivocating around them.

Ron Paul, though, the mention of his name is becoming like those HEAD-ON commercials, mostly due to his annoying obsessed and downright evangelical supporters who just won't shut up! 

I swear, it's like...

"I'm going to get a sandwich." "Sandwiches would be better if Ron Paul were president!"

"Ammo costs more." "Ron Paul would cause lower ammo prices!"

"Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul"....

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2007, 05:49:04 AM »
"George Bush is the problem.  Ron Paul is the solution."

I dont believe either of those things of course.  But your post suggested it.  Do you suppose Ron Paul could get rid of the corn on my foot?
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2007, 05:51:08 AM »
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Do you suppose Ron Paul could get rid of the corn on my foot?
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2007, 06:31:08 AM »
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I personally am rooting for Ron Paul, but he realistically doesn't have a chance.

Thank god everyone else doesnt feel the same as you do. You should vote for who you want to be president.

Actually, I plan on voting for him.  I know he won't win, but I vote according to my beliefs. 


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Thanks to GWB and the current crop of Republicans.    Don't count Edwards out either; the left seems to be rallying around him right now.


As I said, either Hillary or Obama will win.  RKBA wise, Hillary is better.  She won't try to destroy RKBA if the polls are lukewarm on it.  I'd never vote for her, of course.  I like being able to sleep at night.  Obama is strongly an anti.  If either of them imploded somehow, ya, Edwards would have a shot.  Otherwise, nope.

Democrats were put into power expressly by the country voting against GWB and to the recent flurry of scandals.  I'd say it was more "anti-incumbent" than "pro-Democrat".  Only, the Democrats are showing zero guts.  Presidential wise, the Dems just about have a lock unless they do something stupid.  Congress wise, don't be so sure.  Expect more incumbents, Dem and Repub, to get tossed.

Good news is, RKBA will be basically ignored.  We're probably not to make any gains, but we won't lose anything either.  Most of the new Congresscritters are basically aware that the country wouldn't tolerate extreme RKBA changes.  A lot are lukewarm pro-RKBA, like Sen Bob Casey from my state.  Expect roughly the same in the next election.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2007, 06:37:45 AM »
Whatever happens, we are almost certain to get someone even worse than Bush  sad

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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2007, 10:16:25 PM »
I like Ron Paul myself. I tell everyone I meet about the guy, it cant hurt. Most people do not know anything about any of the candidates except that Rudy was in NY on 911.

I'm watching Huckabee, though sometimes he seems a little corny.

I do not consider myself a 1 issue voter either, but a government that tries to disarm it's citizens is a pretty huge issue.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2007, 10:45:26 PM »
Ant news on Thompson? Running, not running.....?
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2007, 08:46:47 AM »
Great on the 2A, execrable on illegal immigration.  Check it out.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2007, 04:17:01 PM »
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Do you suppose Ron Paul could get rid of the corn on my foot?
You'll need Hillary Health Care for that.

Take a number.  When it's called (in two years), we'll amputate.
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Re: Mike Huckabee & Ron Paul
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2007, 03:26:55 PM »
Nope.  No questions from fistful here, either.